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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AaronOfBarbaria" data-source="post: 6777346" data-attributes="member: 6701872">I've actually got a tale of a time when it wasn't!One character was in a grapple with some monster. Another character steps up and blasts that monster with some kind of cone spell.Then the argument starts. The player of the character in the grapple asked me if that cone would affect his character too, or if because the monster grappling him was large it could be aimed in a way to get the monster but not his character. I say I'm cool with it not affecting his character. The player of the character casting the spell insists that the two creatures are in the same space and it is impossible for his character to not get them both in the area of the spell.The worst part of the argument, though, was that it wasn't actually a player arguing with me (I was the DM at the time), it was a player completely ignoring that I had weighed in on the argument and arguing with another player, who he kept saying "but you're not the DM, you don't get to decide that," to when that player would say anything along the lines of "The DM said you don't have to target my character to target this monster" (until I actually got fed up and raised my voice louder than his and told him to stop talking in the most attention grabbing and blunt manner I could muster, then repeated what I had already said more than 20 minutes prior as soon as he cracked a book to reference at the beginning of the game-derailing argument).I doubt it would surprise anyone that the argument starting player in this tale has since been permanently banned from my table.</blockquote>

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