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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 5858856" data-attributes="member: 4937">Base price is determined by how well the merchant likes the character.&nbsp; This is determined by an initial reaction check (diplomacy roll).&nbsp; This is modified by the difference in the PC's apparant social station and the social station of the merchant.&nbsp; If the merchant dislikes you, he won't offer you a good price.&nbsp; If you've done business with him before, saved his town from dragons, rescued his wife from orcs (all earning you new reaction rolls with positive modifiers), and as a result he loves you like a brother, he may sell to you below cost provided he doesn't think you are taking advantage of his generousity.Generally I don't do more detail than that.&nbsp; If I were to dice out haggling it would be with the buyer's Appraise skill versus the seller's social skill of choice (usually Bluff).&nbsp; If I were to play out haggling, I'd make an Appraise skill for the player and tell him what the item was worth on the basis of his Appraise check, then I'd have him haggle with me on the basis of that knowledge and my own knowledge of what the item was really worth and the above determined reaction check that established essentially the seller's minimum desired profit.Appraise is a very overlooked tool in the DMs arsenal.&nbsp; It's essentially the 'looting' skill.&nbsp; Everyone knows that gold is valuable, but not everyone can recognize gold plated lead from solid gold, glass jewelry from real gems, and so forth.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 5858856, member: 4937"] Base price is determined by how well the merchant likes the character. This is determined by an initial reaction check (diplomacy roll). This is modified by the difference in the PC's apparant social station and the social station of the merchant. If the merchant dislikes you, he won't offer you a good price. If you've done business with him before, saved his town from dragons, rescued his wife from orcs (all earning you new reaction rolls with positive modifiers), and as a result he loves you like a brother, he may sell to you below cost provided he doesn't think you are taking advantage of his generousity. Generally I don't do more detail than that. If I were to dice out haggling it would be with the buyer's Appraise skill versus the seller's social skill of choice (usually Bluff). If I were to play out haggling, I'd make an Appraise skill for the player and tell him what the item was worth on the basis of his Appraise check, then I'd have him haggle with me on the basis of that knowledge and my own knowledge of what the item was really worth and the above determined reaction check that established essentially the seller's minimum desired profit. Appraise is a very overlooked tool in the DMs arsenal. It's essentially the 'looting' skill. Everyone knows that gold is valuable, but not everyone can recognize gold plated lead from solid gold, glass jewelry from real gems, and so forth. [/QUOTE]

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