Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
barkskin
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="DEFCON 1" data-source="post: 6444803" data-attributes="member: 7006"><p>Really... at this point no one should really be claiming that their interpretation is the "right" one or the "obvious" one... because the rule *as a rule* is incomplete. It is not written in such a way that gives us enough explanation as to tell us what the spell *really* is doing.</p><p></p><p>"Your Armor Class can't be below 16, regardless of the armor you're wearing" is completely useless because it fails to tell us the most important question...</p><p></p><p><strong>Why?</strong></p><p></p><p>Why *can't* our AC be below 16? What is happening to us when the spell gets cast? Does the spell give us magical armor? Does the spell make us more easily able to dodge attacks? Does the spell magically parry attacks for us? We don't know. The mechanics in of themselves do not tell us *anything* of what is occurring the game world to give us a better Armor Class if it currently is lower than 16.</p><p></p><p>Thus... every single one of our attempts at <em>figuring out</em> what is actually happening to a PC who has had Barkskin cast upon them involves making interpretations and leaps from that simple, incomplete sentence to try and come up with a ruling that is logical, correctly-powered, understood in the game world, and "makes sense".</p><p></p><p>And every one of us is using our tools of reading comprehension and comparative analysis to come up with two distinctly different results.</p><p></p><p>Which is fine! There's no *real* problems that result from that (other than that one Adventurer's League player who has a druid character based around using Barkskin that now has to speak with their AL DM each time they go to a table to find out which way that DM rules it.)</p><p></p><p>But let's just <em>accept</em> that this is the case-- that there are two legitimate results that are being given based upon using <em>incomplete information</em> and leave it at that. Because to continue to insist that "No, MY way is the RIGHT way, and YOUR way is a HOUSERULE!" is rather kind of lame. At the end of the day does it really matter? Especially considering WotC probably knows in-house what their intention was with the spell and just hasn't gotten around to telling the rest of us (because again, does it really matter?)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DEFCON 1, post: 6444803, member: 7006"] Really... at this point no one should really be claiming that their interpretation is the "right" one or the "obvious" one... because the rule *as a rule* is incomplete. It is not written in such a way that gives us enough explanation as to tell us what the spell *really* is doing. "Your Armor Class can't be below 16, regardless of the armor you're wearing" is completely useless because it fails to tell us the most important question... [b]Why?[/b] Why *can't* our AC be below 16? What is happening to us when the spell gets cast? Does the spell give us magical armor? Does the spell make us more easily able to dodge attacks? Does the spell magically parry attacks for us? We don't know. The mechanics in of themselves do not tell us *anything* of what is occurring the game world to give us a better Armor Class if it currently is lower than 16. Thus... every single one of our attempts at [i]figuring out[/i] what is actually happening to a PC who has had Barkskin cast upon them involves making interpretations and leaps from that simple, incomplete sentence to try and come up with a ruling that is logical, correctly-powered, understood in the game world, and "makes sense". And every one of us is using our tools of reading comprehension and comparative analysis to come up with two distinctly different results. Which is fine! There's no *real* problems that result from that (other than that one Adventurer's League player who has a druid character based around using Barkskin that now has to speak with their AL DM each time they go to a table to find out which way that DM rules it.) But let's just [i]accept[/i] that this is the case-- that there are two legitimate results that are being given based upon using [i]incomplete information[/i] and leave it at that. Because to continue to insist that "No, MY way is the RIGHT way, and YOUR way is a HOUSERULE!" is rather kind of lame. At the end of the day does it really matter? Especially considering WotC probably knows in-house what their intention was with the spell and just hasn't gotten around to telling the rest of us (because again, does it really matter?) [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
barkskin
Top