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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ProfessorCirno" data-source="post: 5463856" data-attributes="member: 65637">The problem with these threads is that they inevitably drift into people who have not read 4e, or read a bit of one book but never played it, or played part of a game for like an hour, start pointing out differences in 4e that aren't there.When I critricize 3e it's because I played it for years, and I'm in a 3e game now.When I criticize 2e it's because I played it for years, and my 2e game just yesterday went into hiatus.When I criticize 4e it's because I've played it for a good year and a half now and I'm in a 4e game now.But when so many others criticize 4e it's because of something they heard was in the book by someone else, or it's a rule they glanced at and made a lot of assumptions on, or it's something they saw on the internet.</blockquote>