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<blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 5464673" data-attributes="member: 87792"><p>A debuff for a while. But point generally accurate.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Really? I find the monsters require far more intelligence to manage things like marks and defender auras than they ever did in 3e. And that's supported by the way that there are published computer games for every recent edition of D&D <em>except</em> fourth.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Absolutely!</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>I'll see you that and raise you two successive four hour sessions with an encounter between them <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> And IMO the best parts of 3e and 1e on the character sheet to support this.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Balderdash! I've heard very experienced DMs complaining that they could either challenge the min-maxer or the rest of the party in 2e games.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Yup! Where a choice you have is the choice whether to use an "I Win" button, it makes all other choices meaningless.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Indeed. It happened despite the rules rather than supported by them. It was clunky, messy, and different at different tables. But it happened. This is not to the credit of the system.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Some did. The thing is that the druid's animal companion could have replaced the fighter (if you somehow made it humanoid) and contributed the same things to the party.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Now gone.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Depends on the poison. And the build. Most combat poisons need to overcome the fortitude defence - meaning that they have a much harder time affecting wizards than fighters. And the barbarian in my current campaign has 5 points of poison resistance due to a feat. It's not often useful but has really saved her neck from spiderlings.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>You mean they had similar numbers?</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>A humanoid.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>A throwback to the 2e structure and subclasses. Hell, it was fighter/cleric/rogue/wizard there.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>The weird ones are the 4e monster manuals - largely statblock, but the statblock is far more evocative than the 3e one. It might not tell me about the monster's lair and habitat - but that's gameworld specific anyway. But what it tells me is how the monsters organise themselves, how they move, and how they think. With the light fluff text giving me the monster's common motivations and the picture being worth a thousand words on appearance. Completely different from the 2e ones and much more of an acquired taste.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>No. It's closer to the magician's assistant and the magician - or at least the relationship displayed on stage. The magician does the whole thing and the assistant is there to make the magician look good - but could be trivially replaced by another assistant or even a trained magician. Whereas the magician could only be replaced by another magician.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Neonchameleon, post: 5464673, member: 87792"] A debuff for a while. But point generally accurate. Really? I find the monsters require far more intelligence to manage things like marks and defender auras than they ever did in 3e. And that's supported by the way that there are published computer games for every recent edition of D&D [I]except[/I] fourth. Absolutely! I'll see you that and raise you two successive four hour sessions with an encounter between them :) And IMO the best parts of 3e and 1e on the character sheet to support this. Balderdash! I've heard very experienced DMs complaining that they could either challenge the min-maxer or the rest of the party in 2e games. Yup! Where a choice you have is the choice whether to use an "I Win" button, it makes all other choices meaningless. Indeed. It happened despite the rules rather than supported by them. It was clunky, messy, and different at different tables. But it happened. This is not to the credit of the system. Some did. The thing is that the druid's animal companion could have replaced the fighter (if you somehow made it humanoid) and contributed the same things to the party. Now gone. Depends on the poison. And the build. Most combat poisons need to overcome the fortitude defence - meaning that they have a much harder time affecting wizards than fighters. And the barbarian in my current campaign has 5 points of poison resistance due to a feat. It's not often useful but has really saved her neck from spiderlings. You mean they had similar numbers? A humanoid. A throwback to the 2e structure and subclasses. Hell, it was fighter/cleric/rogue/wizard there. The weird ones are the 4e monster manuals - largely statblock, but the statblock is far more evocative than the 3e one. It might not tell me about the monster's lair and habitat - but that's gameworld specific anyway. But what it tells me is how the monsters organise themselves, how they move, and how they think. With the light fluff text giving me the monster's common motivations and the picture being worth a thousand words on appearance. Completely different from the 2e ones and much more of an acquired taste. No. It's closer to the magician's assistant and the magician - or at least the relationship displayed on stage. The magician does the whole thing and the assistant is there to make the magician look good - but could be trivially replaced by another assistant or even a trained magician. Whereas the magician could only be replaced by another magician. [/QUOTE]
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