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<blockquote data-quote="ruemere" data-source="post: 5369887" data-attributes="member: 5515"><p>One word of caution though: Pathfinder RPG is using different design philosophy than 4E. </p><p><em>Note: This is not meant to antagonize anyone. I just want to voice my opinion.</em></p><p></p><p>Probably, the most fitting way to describe it is that 4E makes everyone equal through very well designed rulesystem, while PFRPG strives to make everyone different.</p><p>So, under 4E it is harder to build imbalanced characters, but at the end of the day you may feel that different classes do similar things. Or, at the very least, exhibit similar efficiency when dealing with challenges.</p><p>Under PFRPG different classes are different to the point where GM's job requires a lot of imagination to provide equal opportunities for everyone. And some folks feel that they got short end of the stick as they do not get to do cool things like the wizard.</p><p></p><p>PFRPG is my system of choice because:</p><p>- third party support. I'm a Scarred Lands GM through and through, I admire works of Monte Cook (Banewarrens and Ptolus), pluck stuff from Necromancer Games... it's simply </p><p>[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGQ0pUJCPXY"]fantastich[/ame]</p><p></p><p>- just browse cool bits and pieces in a PDF store on a rainy day.</p><p>- people are not made equal. Characters and monsters, too. You need skill, and you need passion to do stuff.</p><p>- same rules apply to everyone. This is my pet peeve with 4E - PCs and the world around them work differently. </p><p>- Paizo staff are very responsive. They talk to fans.</p><p></p><p>Regards,</p><p>Ruemere</p><p></p><p>PS.</p><p><strong>*warning* *rant ahead* *read at your own peril*</strong></p><p>Finally, this is going to be a political statement of sorts: Paizo Publishing plays fair. Hasbro, and consequently WotC, do not. Instead of at least trying to gracefully abandon OGL (and d20 STL), the third party companies were put in a drag of a wait for GSL, and when GSL finally did appear, using it was as pleasurable as dancing on a broken glass.</p><p></p><p>I am not going to support a company which does that to the rest of the market. I know that WotC was within their rights to do just that. I know that there may have been various factors involved. It still does not justify the end result - the withering of 3rd party market.</p><p><strong>*end of rant*</strong></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ruemere, post: 5369887, member: 5515"] One word of caution though: Pathfinder RPG is using different design philosophy than 4E. [I]Note: This is not meant to antagonize anyone. I just want to voice my opinion.[/I] Probably, the most fitting way to describe it is that 4E makes everyone equal through very well designed rulesystem, while PFRPG strives to make everyone different. So, under 4E it is harder to build imbalanced characters, but at the end of the day you may feel that different classes do similar things. Or, at the very least, exhibit similar efficiency when dealing with challenges. Under PFRPG different classes are different to the point where GM's job requires a lot of imagination to provide equal opportunities for everyone. And some folks feel that they got short end of the stick as they do not get to do cool things like the wizard. PFRPG is my system of choice because: - third party support. I'm a Scarred Lands GM through and through, I admire works of Monte Cook (Banewarrens and Ptolus), pluck stuff from Necromancer Games... it's simply [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGQ0pUJCPXY"]fantastich[/ame] - just browse cool bits and pieces in a PDF store on a rainy day. - people are not made equal. Characters and monsters, too. You need skill, and you need passion to do stuff. - same rules apply to everyone. This is my pet peeve with 4E - PCs and the world around them work differently. - Paizo staff are very responsive. They talk to fans. Regards, Ruemere PS. [B]*warning* *rant ahead* *read at your own peril*[/B] Finally, this is going to be a political statement of sorts: Paizo Publishing plays fair. Hasbro, and consequently WotC, do not. Instead of at least trying to gracefully abandon OGL (and d20 STL), the third party companies were put in a drag of a wait for GSL, and when GSL finally did appear, using it was as pleasurable as dancing on a broken glass. I am not going to support a company which does that to the rest of the market. I know that WotC was within their rights to do just that. I know that there may have been various factors involved. It still does not justify the end result - the withering of 3rd party market. [B]*end of rant*[/B] [/QUOTE]
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