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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 7645459" data-attributes="member: 4937">The first pressurized diving suit dates to 1710.&nbsp; The diving bell to earlier than that.&nbsp; Bellows still work in an anti-magic field.&nbsp;&nbsp; A scuba has nothing in it that was unknown technology in the Victorian era, it was simply a matter of figuring out the details of what was an inherently dangerous technology, and in fact the first primitive but practical device dates to 1878.&nbsp; So while none of &quot;this stuff&quot; works, it's perfectly plausible to have a steampunk &quot;helm of underwater breathing&quot; that is basically a scuba tank and breather using 19th century materials and construction techniques, which duplicates the success of say the 1950's device but invents it 100 years earlier.&nbsp;&nbsp; No magic required.Likewise, assuming the chemistry of black powder has an analogue (which isn't a guaranteed, see the Amber series), then a black powder revolver works just fine in an anti-magic field.Your pictured steam punk &quot;Goggles of Minute Seeing&quot; are poorly designed for any purpose but aesthetics, but the magnifying lens dates to Ancient Egypt and the concept of a loupe was practical by the early 19th century as optical knowledge improved even if it wasn't invented until 1876.&nbsp; Had someone sufficient reason and a persistent desire to investigate such things, it could have been invented 2000 years earlier.&nbsp;&nbsp; So, you could have a steampunk &quot;Goggles of Minute Seeing&quot;, no magic required.Steampunk consists of two things - things that could have been invented before their time using only mid-19th century knowledge and which would work without magic and things that are just magical devices reskinned.&nbsp;&nbsp; The former is to me at least more interesting than the later.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 7645459, member: 4937"] The first pressurized diving suit dates to 1710. The diving bell to earlier than that. Bellows still work in an anti-magic field. A scuba has nothing in it that was unknown technology in the Victorian era, it was simply a matter of figuring out the details of what was an inherently dangerous technology, and in fact the first primitive but practical device dates to 1878. So while none of "this stuff" works, it's perfectly plausible to have a steampunk "helm of underwater breathing" that is basically a scuba tank and breather using 19th century materials and construction techniques, which duplicates the success of say the 1950's device but invents it 100 years earlier. No magic required. Likewise, assuming the chemistry of black powder has an analogue (which isn't a guaranteed, see the Amber series), then a black powder revolver works just fine in an anti-magic field. Your pictured steam punk "Goggles of Minute Seeing" are poorly designed for any purpose but aesthetics, but the magnifying lens dates to Ancient Egypt and the concept of a loupe was practical by the early 19th century as optical knowledge improved even if it wasn't invented until 1876. Had someone sufficient reason and a persistent desire to investigate such things, it could have been invented 2000 years earlier. So, you could have a steampunk "Goggles of Minute Seeing", no magic required. Steampunk consists of two things - things that could have been invented before their time using only mid-19th century knowledge and which would work without magic and things that are just magical devices reskinned. The former is to me at least more interesting than the later. [/QUOTE]

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