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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 7078662" data-attributes="member: 6801228"><p>Just to throw my 2 cents in here (I’ve got a bug about Sorcerers)</p><p></p><p>Let us say you Twin Haste, earliest you can do that is 5th level. This is wonderful if you have two melee character to benefit from it, so it is dependent on the party. You only have one big tough melee dude, then a single haste is just as good generally. </p><p></p><p>It costs you 3 of your 5 sorcerery points. Meaning that without doing anything else you can’t do this twice. You could burn a lv 1 slot to get another point, allowing you to do this twice </p><p></p><p>So, you’ve burnt all of your points and three spell slots. It is a powerful combo, But two fights and you are nearly tapped out. Now, unless you burn more spell slots, you can only cast spells normally and you’ve only got 5 other spells to choose, levels 1 and 2.</p><p></p><p>Is casting Haste twice on your off-tank worth ritual casting, arcane recovery, and an additional 8 known spells at 5th level?</p><p></p><p>I find it to be a tough sell. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I agree, I’ve always seen them as support casters, and frankly as a support class I see them as one of the most powerful in the game. But, since we were discussing classes and I was recently reminded that some people are upset that bard levels 1-4 are lacking in offensive options I’d just toss it out and see if there was something obvious I was missing that I could tell future players to look into.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 7078662, member: 6801228"] Just to throw my 2 cents in here (I’ve got a bug about Sorcerers) Let us say you Twin Haste, earliest you can do that is 5th level. This is wonderful if you have two melee character to benefit from it, so it is dependent on the party. You only have one big tough melee dude, then a single haste is just as good generally. It costs you 3 of your 5 sorcerery points. Meaning that without doing anything else you can’t do this twice. You could burn a lv 1 slot to get another point, allowing you to do this twice So, you’ve burnt all of your points and three spell slots. It is a powerful combo, But two fights and you are nearly tapped out. Now, unless you burn more spell slots, you can only cast spells normally and you’ve only got 5 other spells to choose, levels 1 and 2. Is casting Haste twice on your off-tank worth ritual casting, arcane recovery, and an additional 8 known spells at 5th level? I find it to be a tough sell. I agree, I’ve always seen them as support casters, and frankly as a support class I see them as one of the most powerful in the game. But, since we were discussing classes and I was recently reminded that some people are upset that bard levels 1-4 are lacking in offensive options I’d just toss it out and see if there was something obvious I was missing that I could tell future players to look into. [/QUOTE]
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