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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ccs" data-source="post: 7079925" data-attributes="member: 6803664">In my xp this is only true when the player of said fighter chooses not to interact with the rest of the game.  Such players choose not to select non-combat skills/feats, chooses to ignore 4-5 of their stats, & sits mostly mutely when anything but combat is occurring.  And they don't claim non-combat related loot.Of course, this sitting mutely stems directly from having not invested in other stats/skills/feats.  The player realizes that they don't have the highest modifier & so doesn't risk failure by trying anything....And then this type of player compounds their problem by continuing to over-invest in combat as they lv up because they preceive no value in upping non-combat stuff that they're already "behind" in. If you're playing a fighter (or any other class) & your jealous of the class abilities of others - the answer is that you have chosen the wrong class.Fighters don't lag behind the other weapon classes (whatever you think those are), they just do things differently.Primarily they get additional ASI/Feats.  Yes, I know I just said that taking nothing but combat focused ASIs/feats is bad.  But there IS a balance to be had.... ??  Lack of flavor/story?  This might come as a shock, but that's on YOU the player to provide, not WoTC.  If you lack imagination you're playing the wrong game.A basic fighter?  What do you think the Champion sub-class is?  That's about as simple as you get without going back to the 1e fighter.</blockquote>

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