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Message: <blockquote data-quote="GuardianLurker" data-source="post: 85564" data-attributes="member: 786">Again, it's the spell slots, not the time. Quicken spell doesn't really solve this, and in some sense even agravates it, by raising the level of at least one spell in the combo by 4.I repeat, it's the spell slots, not the time. Heck, let's make all the batch spells have a casting time of "One round", or "Two rounds".On the other hand, Rary's Mnemonic Enhancer restores three levels of spells - any three that you have prepared that day. Which would argue that a spell that only restores 2 levels would be a third level spell. And the Twin Spell and Repeat Spell feats are both +2 levels (if I remember correctly).Bingo. Speaking from a point of self-interest, Mass Haste (or its lesser cousin) don't help my wizard live through the battle, or even the first round; the party can wait a round while I cover my wimpy wizard butt. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":P" title="Stick out tongue    :P"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":P" /> Besides, I'm more than willing to brew those potions of Haste for the other guys.Thinking about it, given the Rary's issue I mentioned above, I think the spells should be revised to :Protected Mage would unhappily seem to work out to a 9th level spell if we follow a strict n-1 limit, but that seems awfully high. Especially since the two feats would essentially allow you to double cast a 7th level spell (for a total of 2n-4 levels). And Polibrun's logarithmic scale seems overpowered - a 9th level spell is not going to let you cast MM 128 times. As an interim, suppose we take 2n-5 as the general number of spell levels a Nth level spell will restore in a Rary's type spell.Then we haveLevel 2 = -1 (not possible)Level 3 = 1 (possible but why bother?)Level 4 = 3 (That's Rary's)Level 5 = 5Level 6 = 7Level 7 = 9Level 8 = 11Level 9 = 13This would put Protected Mage at 6th, with 8 total spell levels, and Improved Protected Mage (with 13) at 9th, if I was to use a Rary's type spell. Since I don't need the flexibility of a Rary's, and I'm willing to do this as a full-round cast, I think I can probably get away with droping Protected Mage to 5th and Improved Protected Mage to 8th. Actually, I just realized that it's silly to have both blink and improved invisibility, so if we drop the blink, we drop to 10 total levels (a solid 7th), and the power reductions would take us to 6th.How's that sound?</blockquote>

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