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<blockquote data-quote="Mouseferatu" data-source="post: 1691684" data-attributes="member: 1288"><p>Not to completely hijack the thread, but while I enjoyed the story overall, I always had one <em>major</em> problem with Batman: Year Two, one that really lowered my enjoyment of the whole thing.</p><p></p><p>[SPOILER]I <em>hate</em> that they turned Joe Chill into a bad ass. In B:Y2, he's a mob hitman, a good shot, and he's got ice-water in his veins. Hell, even when Batman/Bruce has got a gun to his head, there's no trace of fear; it's just "Do it if you've got the guts."</p><p></p><p>That's <em>not</em> Joe Chill. Joe Chill was a coward, a punk street criminal, a nothing who freaked and ran after shooting two helpless pedestrians. He's a coward. That's the whole <em>point</em> of Joe Chill, the fact that this mewling, useless little stain of a man was the one who brought about the Batman. It's the same reason I hate the fact that Tim Burton made the Joker-to-be the one who killed the Waynes in this first Batman movie. By giving Joe Chill any strength at all, it <em>seriously</em> detracts from the character.</p><p></p><p>I'm sure some people won't see why I think this is a big deal, but to me, it turned an otherwise cool story into a disappointment. I've always loved the fate of Joe Chill as originally written in the comics decades ago--in which he finds out that Bruce Wayne is Batman, runs to a bunch of his criminal cohorts to tell them, and when they learn that he created Batman, they shoot him dead in retalliation for all the trouble Bats has caused. <em>That</em> sort of fate is appropriate for Chill, not facing down Batman and getting shot from behind.</p><p></p><p>They gave Joe Chill a <em>spine</em>, made him more than a punk coward with a gun and sweaty palms, and that's damn near an unforgivable sin, IMO.[/SPOILER] </p><p></p><p>Sorry for the length. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mouseferatu, post: 1691684, member: 1288"] Not to completely hijack the thread, but while I enjoyed the story overall, I always had one [i]major[/i] problem with Batman: Year Two, one that really lowered my enjoyment of the whole thing. [SPOILER]I [i]hate[/i] that they turned Joe Chill into a bad ass. In B:Y2, he's a mob hitman, a good shot, and he's got ice-water in his veins. Hell, even when Batman/Bruce has got a gun to his head, there's no trace of fear; it's just "Do it if you've got the guts." That's [i]not[/i] Joe Chill. Joe Chill was a coward, a punk street criminal, a nothing who freaked and ran after shooting two helpless pedestrians. He's a coward. That's the whole [i]point[/i] of Joe Chill, the fact that this mewling, useless little stain of a man was the one who brought about the Batman. It's the same reason I hate the fact that Tim Burton made the Joker-to-be the one who killed the Waynes in this first Batman movie. By giving Joe Chill any strength at all, it [i]seriously[/i] detracts from the character. I'm sure some people won't see why I think this is a big deal, but to me, it turned an otherwise cool story into a disappointment. I've always loved the fate of Joe Chill as originally written in the comics decades ago--in which he finds out that Bruce Wayne is Batman, runs to a bunch of his criminal cohorts to tell them, and when they learn that he created Batman, they shoot him dead in retalliation for all the trouble Bats has caused. [i]That[/i] sort of fate is appropriate for Chill, not facing down Batman and getting shot from behind. They gave Joe Chill a [i]spine[/i], made him more than a punk coward with a gun and sweaty palms, and that's damn near an unforgivable sin, IMO.[/SPOILER] Sorry for the length. :D [/QUOTE]
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