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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ShinHakkaider" data-source="post: 2339259" data-attributes="member: 9213">In this we are like BROTHERS. Exhibit A: The fight between John Mclaine and Karl near the end of DIE HARD. Basically two guys really trying to kill each other as best as they can.Exhibit B: The fight in the apt in France near the half way mark in THE BOURNE IDENTITY. Two skilled fighters, really brutal. No fancy wire work. Exhibit C: Tony Jaa in pretty much every fight scene in ONG BAK. Brutal no nonsense muy Thai, knees, shins, elbows to the face, chest and head. BATMAN BEGINS had fight scenes that well...sucked. And really at the end of the day you can give me all the character development that you want, but if it isnt accompanied by Batman copiously kicking people in the teeth, then it's not worth it. I really wanted to like this movie and there were parts of it I did like but part of the summer action movie experience is, well the action. And on that front Batman Begins failed miserably.</blockquote>