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<blockquote data-quote="megamania" data-source="post: 5654795" data-attributes="member: 9255"><p>The perception of being dated isn't so much the product but how our society looks at things.</p><p></p><p>Watchmen</p><p>First comic to be cinimatic in style. One of the first to truely be a mature comicbook, not for violence and T & A but for the higher concepts of morality, psychology and definition of good / evil. Because of this book, colleges began to treat comics as an art form and taught literature classes using it. </p><p>In college I took a course that compared philosophy, literature and art. For modern times I used the Watchmen series to speak about all THREE subjects. Each of the teachers were surprised by the subject material and maturity of the series. It was something of a wakeup call to them.</p><p></p><p>Dark Knight Returns</p><p>The art is awesome.</p><p>Subject material.... new and somewhat original but its the art that makes it an instant classic. Especially with Miller's wife coloring skills. Before the age of computer work it was first rate and ahead of its time. </p><p>Personally Miller's Daredevil story "Born Again" I thought was much better.</p><p></p><p></p><p>At the time these stories were huge because they were so different. They are still well written, drawn and well scripted. But what made them stand out is the subject matter and how it was treated. Today the subject matter is over used and commonplace. Some is still well done but most just doesn't cut it, poor imitations of the originals.</p><p></p><p>Through this "homage" or imitation we have grown used to it and the subject matter. So now we look at the material and compare it to new and "modern" stuff. We want new... not old.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="megamania, post: 5654795, member: 9255"] The perception of being dated isn't so much the product but how our society looks at things. Watchmen First comic to be cinimatic in style. One of the first to truely be a mature comicbook, not for violence and T & A but for the higher concepts of morality, psychology and definition of good / evil. Because of this book, colleges began to treat comics as an art form and taught literature classes using it. In college I took a course that compared philosophy, literature and art. For modern times I used the Watchmen series to speak about all THREE subjects. Each of the teachers were surprised by the subject material and maturity of the series. It was something of a wakeup call to them. Dark Knight Returns The art is awesome. Subject material.... new and somewhat original but its the art that makes it an instant classic. Especially with Miller's wife coloring skills. Before the age of computer work it was first rate and ahead of its time. Personally Miller's Daredevil story "Born Again" I thought was much better. At the time these stories were huge because they were so different. They are still well written, drawn and well scripted. But what made them stand out is the subject matter and how it was treated. Today the subject matter is over used and commonplace. Some is still well done but most just doesn't cut it, poor imitations of the originals. Through this "homage" or imitation we have grown used to it and the subject matter. So now we look at the material and compare it to new and "modern" stuff. We want new... not old. [/QUOTE]
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