Reply to thread

Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mustrum_Ridcully" data-source="post: 6858983" data-attributes="member: 710">Well, against the Warlord, he easily wins. The first encounter with Bats - well, he stops him in his tracks and Batman can't do anything. And of course, Doomsday ends up dead, but it costs Superman his life, so I don't know how you'd count that. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />I think it was primarily there for Bruce's father dying words. "Martha". Which later becomes important when Superman mentions his foster mother as Batman is about to finish him.Her part in Superman Returns seemed better. She's not a fighter, but she was a good investigator / journalist. She investigates in this movie, too, but it seems to lead nowhere, really. It seems the critical information - Lex Luthor was behind killing the people in Africa, not Superman - never reaches anyone that could use that information effectively. She could and would have been captured by Lex either way, since she is a known way to get to Superman's attention. Thankfuly, Superman's superhearing is faster than the speed of sound... I don't know much about her, certainly not that she has been around so long, so that was an interesting information to me. But she seemed mostly there to set up future movies, because she wasn't actually needed for anything. Which isn't to say I disliked the character or thought she was bad. Just that she wasn't really needed.The Batman vs Superman fight was great, though the the Batman vs Mercenaries fight afterwards was better (though it reminded me a lot of the second Bale/Nolan Batman movie). But the fight against Doomsday was just... meh. A series of visual effects. It doesn't help if your villain has no dialog, really. Also... "Hey, I have this Kryptonite Spear in my city, and I sit in a bat plane. Let's attract the monster that is currently on an uninhabitated island to the city so I can fight it while I am still looking for the spear". That was dumb, Bats. Very dumb. It felt too disjointed, too many scenes that don't really flow together into one movie. It seems a jump-start to a new DC Universe, sure, but it does so without really telling the full story that was supposed to be in the movie.There seemed to be rarely real dialogs, with people talking with each other and moving the story forward - people saying their talking point, yeah, but genuine interaction?</blockquote>

Verification