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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 6168531" data-attributes="member: 177">Eh, be careful, there.  Even in terms of popularity, you may not be right.  Iron Man has been doing a fine job against Bats in terms of movie grosses of late.  And on that scale, Superman is doing poorly.  By that logic, Merry, Pippin, and Samwise can beat Superman <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":P" title="Stick out tongue    :P"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":P" />In terms of staying in the fiction of the comic, I think it comes down to preparation and situation.Let's be frank - Bats is not going to be constantly carrying around an anti-Iron Man device.  So, without forewarning and access to schematics on the armor, he'd not going to have one handy.  That leaves Bats holding a sever short end of the stick with respect to outright power.  That armor can take shots from Thor and the Hulk - no amount of obsession-driven martial arts training is getting through it.  Sorry.Bats might be able to win on a social-engineering hack - playing off Tony Stark's good-guy nature by forcing Stark into choices that amount to, "do something that will make you lose, or someone gets hurt".  Basically, if Bats behaves like a villain, he can win out over IM in a given conflict.  And some iterations of Batman have been more than big enough jerks to play that game.  Of course, in doing so, he loses all his Karma Points, rather ensuring that Stark will win in Round 2.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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