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<blockquote data-quote="Danceofmasks" data-source="post: 5054745" data-attributes="member: 70765"><p>Huh, and the feat investment in much of those things a taclord can do are expensive.</p><p>In contrast, a battle cleric can just invest most of their feats on being personally kickass.</p><p> </p><p>Like I've said, a battle cleric should pick up a better weapon early, and not just for the hitroll ...</p><p>1) They don't get shields</p><p>2) All their powers are [W], so bring the big damage dice.</p><p> </p><p>Battle clerics get enough encounter-long buffs to have one active every battle <em>and</em> brand every round.</p><p>They got those daily attack powers that ... wait for it ... provide encounter long buffs ... <em>at the same time</em> as dish out multitarget non-AC targeting [W] attacks.</p><p>And remember ... since <em>every single feat</em> a cleric takes increases either personal defense or offense, those [W] attacks are <strong>potent</strong>.</p><p> </p><p>You underestimate hitroll, you really do. A 1 point difference = 1 less hit every 20 attacks, right?</p><p>Well, every single attack a battle cleric makes <em>deals decent damage</em> as well as buff.</p><p>If you're dragging PPs into this, heck, I love hitroll so much my cleric MCs Fighter to get into Kensei (though he'll have to get rid of the javelin, then) ... and since he's a fighter anyway, power swap for come and get it.</p><p> </p><p>Yes, that means battle clerics are 'selfish' leaders. Glory hogs.</p><p>A charge-brand build deals what, D12 + 10 + D8 + D6 ... 24.5 average? Probably a bit miscalculated. But it's done with a charge. Additional +1 to hit.</p><p>Oh, <em>by the way</em>, have +5 to hit this guy.</p><p> </p><p>And that's in heroic tier.</p><p>Eventually, a landed brand = "hey you, unless you roll a 1, you hit"</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Danceofmasks, post: 5054745, member: 70765"] Huh, and the feat investment in much of those things a taclord can do are expensive. In contrast, a battle cleric can just invest most of their feats on being personally kickass. Like I've said, a battle cleric should pick up a better weapon early, and not just for the hitroll ... 1) They don't get shields 2) All their powers are [W], so bring the big damage dice. Battle clerics get enough encounter-long buffs to have one active every battle [I]and[/I] brand every round. They got those daily attack powers that ... wait for it ... provide encounter long buffs ... [I]at the same time[/I] as dish out multitarget non-AC targeting [W] attacks. And remember ... since [I]every single feat[/I] a cleric takes increases either personal defense or offense, those [W] attacks are [B]potent[/B]. You underestimate hitroll, you really do. A 1 point difference = 1 less hit every 20 attacks, right? Well, every single attack a battle cleric makes [I]deals decent damage[/I] as well as buff. If you're dragging PPs into this, heck, I love hitroll so much my cleric MCs Fighter to get into Kensei (though he'll have to get rid of the javelin, then) ... and since he's a fighter anyway, power swap for come and get it. Yes, that means battle clerics are 'selfish' leaders. Glory hogs. A charge-brand build deals what, D12 + 10 + D8 + D6 ... 24.5 average? Probably a bit miscalculated. But it's done with a charge. Additional +1 to hit. Oh, [I]by the way[/I], have +5 to hit this guy. And that's in heroic tier. Eventually, a landed brand = "hey you, unless you roll a 1, you hit" [/QUOTE]
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