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<blockquote data-quote="tiornys" data-source="post: 5054761" data-attributes="member: 17633"><p>Hmm. The things I listed cost only two feats. One adds damage to action points, so it doesn't do anything to make the TacLord personally kickass. The other boosts everyone's initiative, including the TacLord's, so it does help make the TacLord personally kickass. Not actually that expensive. </p><p> </p><p>Oh, I agree. That's why I listed it as only slightly more expensive than a Warlord.</p><p> </p><p>Not denying that a Battle Cleric is an effective character. None of this addresses my primary point of contention: Warlords are better at enabling early combat novas than Battle Clerics. If you agree with that assessment, then we can discuss how valuable that ability is. I personally think it is very valuable because early elimination of an enemy or two makes the encounter significantly easier. </p><p> </p><p>No, really, I don't underestimate it. I've played 28 levels of a starting 18 Str (Dragonborn) TacLord and I've played 13 levels of a starting 16 Str (Eladrin) TacLord. I know exactly how valuable that extra +1 was.</p><p></p><p>Oh, and every attack I made with the Dragonborn did decent damage. Every attack I make with the Eladrin does strong damage (thanks to Eladrin Soldier). And buffs, of course.</p><p>Yeah, Kensei's a good choice, although it's just as available to a TacLord. TacLords, however, have a superior option.</p><p> </p><p>And around that same time, the TacLord can say "hey you, unless you roll a 1, you hit" by spending a minor action. Without needing to hit. Sure, they can't do it at-will, but really, how many rounds of that do you need?</p><p></p><p>t~</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tiornys, post: 5054761, member: 17633"] Hmm. The things I listed cost only two feats. One adds damage to action points, so it doesn't do anything to make the TacLord personally kickass. The other boosts everyone's initiative, including the TacLord's, so it does help make the TacLord personally kickass. Not actually that expensive. Oh, I agree. That's why I listed it as only slightly more expensive than a Warlord. Not denying that a Battle Cleric is an effective character. None of this addresses my primary point of contention: Warlords are better at enabling early combat novas than Battle Clerics. If you agree with that assessment, then we can discuss how valuable that ability is. I personally think it is very valuable because early elimination of an enemy or two makes the encounter significantly easier. No, really, I don't underestimate it. I've played 28 levels of a starting 18 Str (Dragonborn) TacLord and I've played 13 levels of a starting 16 Str (Eladrin) TacLord. I know exactly how valuable that extra +1 was. Oh, and every attack I made with the Dragonborn did decent damage. Every attack I make with the Eladrin does strong damage (thanks to Eladrin Soldier). And buffs, of course. Yeah, Kensei's a good choice, although it's just as available to a TacLord. TacLords, however, have a superior option. And around that same time, the TacLord can say "hey you, unless you roll a 1, you hit" by spending a minor action. Without needing to hit. Sure, they can't do it at-will, but really, how many rounds of that do you need? t~ [/QUOTE]
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