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<blockquote data-quote="tiornys" data-source="post: 5055479" data-attributes="member: 17633"><p>Righteous Brand is strong, but it's no Rain of Blows. It probably should have had its effect key off of a secondary stat rather than the primary stat, but if you were to change that you'd want to provide more benefits from that secondary stat in other powers (right now only 8 powers key off of Strength and use Charisma for anything, and one of those looks like a misprint). Besides, which is more of a secondary stat for a Battle Cleric, Wisdom or Charisma? Without a full redesign of the build, I don't think it's a good idea to mess with Righteous Brand. (Of course, the power certainly doesn't need to be strengthened. Why WotC had <em>eleven</em> of the domains apply to Righteous Brand when only five apply to Priest's Shield is beyond me.)</p><p></p><p>Besides, 20 Str has plenty of benefits for a Battle Cleric besides Righteous Brand. It does, after all, boost every encounter and daily attacking power the character uses, improve the character's Fortitude, and it boosts Athletics, which is the second or third most combat relevant skill.</p><p></p><p>Honestly, every class wants to consider a starting 20 in their attack stat. Most classes get too many benefits from their secondary stats and/or need those stat points to qualify for key feats, which makes it wrong to buy the 20, but for those that can get away with it (such as archer Rangers, Rogues, and some Wizards), it's always among the best options.</p><p></p><p>t~</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tiornys, post: 5055479, member: 17633"] Righteous Brand is strong, but it's no Rain of Blows. It probably should have had its effect key off of a secondary stat rather than the primary stat, but if you were to change that you'd want to provide more benefits from that secondary stat in other powers (right now only 8 powers key off of Strength and use Charisma for anything, and one of those looks like a misprint). Besides, which is more of a secondary stat for a Battle Cleric, Wisdom or Charisma? Without a full redesign of the build, I don't think it's a good idea to mess with Righteous Brand. (Of course, the power certainly doesn't need to be strengthened. Why WotC had [i]eleven[/i] of the domains apply to Righteous Brand when only five apply to Priest's Shield is beyond me.) Besides, 20 Str has plenty of benefits for a Battle Cleric besides Righteous Brand. It does, after all, boost every encounter and daily attacking power the character uses, improve the character's Fortitude, and it boosts Athletics, which is the second or third most combat relevant skill. Honestly, every class wants to consider a starting 20 in their attack stat. Most classes get too many benefits from their secondary stats and/or need those stat points to qualify for key feats, which makes it wrong to buy the 20, but for those that can get away with it (such as archer Rangers, Rogues, and some Wizards), it's always among the best options. t~ [/QUOTE]
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