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<blockquote data-quote="R_J_K75" data-source="post: 8393093" data-attributes="member: 6921294">I've always used the Vis-a-Vis and generally never had a problem unless its really hot in the summer or have the heat turned up higher than normal and dont wipe them off within a few hours.&nbsp; I tried spray with bleach, and diluted bleach with no luck.&nbsp; I'll try rubbing alcohol and gray-barrelled Staedtler markers and see what happens.&nbsp; Ive been looking into other mats than Chessex on Amazon and this seems a common problem which comes down to how long the marker is left on the mat rather than the material or marker used. There's a material they sell at Lowes and Home Depot that's white, about 1/8&quot; thick and comes in sheets thats used specifically to line the walls of bathroom showers.&nbsp; I cant remember what its called but I used to make battle mats by scoring lines in it.&nbsp; Anyone know what its called?EDIT: Its called 1/8&quot; Panelboard made by DPI (Decorative Panels International.&nbsp; Its alot cheaper than a vinyl mat.&nbsp; Just takes a bit to lay out and score.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="R_J_K75, post: 8393093, member: 6921294"] I've always used the Vis-a-Vis and generally never had a problem unless its really hot in the summer or have the heat turned up higher than normal and dont wipe them off within a few hours. I tried spray with bleach, and diluted bleach with no luck. I'll try rubbing alcohol and gray-barrelled Staedtler markers and see what happens. Ive been looking into other mats than Chessex on Amazon and this seems a common problem which comes down to how long the marker is left on the mat rather than the material or marker used. There's a material they sell at Lowes and Home Depot that's white, about 1/8" thick and comes in sheets thats used specifically to line the walls of bathroom showers. I cant remember what its called but I used to make battle mats by scoring lines in it. Anyone know what its called? EDIT: Its called 1/8" Panelboard made by DPI (Decorative Panels International. Its alot cheaper than a vinyl mat. Just takes a bit to lay out and score. [/QUOTE]

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