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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Blaque" data-source="post: 2673350" data-attributes="member: 37689">Another thing that battle sorcerers end up dealing with is they won't be the utility guy the regular sorcerer was.  With a much more limited spell selection, you won't liekly learn things like fireball, but instead more like things like cat's grace, shield, true strike, and other self-buffs.Especially when the cleric can still do more then the sorcerer in the long run (as noted, more spells known all the while), and can still kick the battle sorcerer's ass in combat with better armor and shields, and variety on weaponry.  And as noted above, since the sorcerer is more likely to self-buff, while clerics have the option to do that and blast more often, it seems the cleric wins in flexibility.I still like battle sorcerers a lot though.  I think they are strictly better then the regular sorcerer in the simple fact they aren't "Wizards, but spontaneous!".  They have their own little niche in the arcane food chain<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Stuff.</blockquote>