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Battle Standard of Healing and Healer's Brooch: overpowered healing?
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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 5084021" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>Yeah, I don't see that at all.</p><p></p><p>A smart player will move his PC to where most other PCs are in range. Most encounters are not in massively large areas where the PCs spread all over the map and tactically, it is a bad idea to get too far from the Cleric, even if the map is large.</p><p></p><p>Other PCs might or might not be bloodied, but that is irrelevant. The power is best used when a majority of PCs are bloodied, so again, a smart player will wait to do Healing Words until after multilple PCs are bloodied and then do Healer's Mercy instead.</p><p></p><p>It's actually more healing than Healer's Word. It still gains the Cleric's Wisdom bonus and many other bonuses, it just does not gain the D6's for Healer's Word itself. So, healing 3 PCs for 5 + ~10 hit points (in the example above with Wis 18 and a Healer's Brooch) is much better than healing 1 PC of 8 + ~10 hit points with Healing Word. 2.5 times as much better. On the same round, the Cleric can then use a minor action to throw a Healing Word at any of the PCs that is still bloodied.</p><p></p><p>It gets even better with powers like Beacon of Hope, etc.</p><p></p><p>The Channel Divinity loss is mostly irrelevant. When PCs have an option or power 1 or power 2, it's not that they are giving up power 2 to use power 1, it's that they are MORE flexible than other PCs who do not have a choice of which of 2 powers to use. Channel Divinity is powerful because it gives more options. One cannot view it as Channel Divinity is weak because it gives more options.</p><p></p><p>The Cleric being Weakened is also a pretty minor limitation considering how much healing Healer's Word does. There are a lot of Cleric powers like Hymn of Resurgence or Astral Seal where Weakened does not really impact the Cleric on the next round that significantly.</p><p></p><p>All in all, people who downplay the usefulness and power of Healer's Mercy are not having their players use it effectively in the game. It can be absolutely overwhelming and I wouldn't be surprised if WotC does nerf it someday.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 5084021, member: 2011"] Yeah, I don't see that at all. A smart player will move his PC to where most other PCs are in range. Most encounters are not in massively large areas where the PCs spread all over the map and tactically, it is a bad idea to get too far from the Cleric, even if the map is large. Other PCs might or might not be bloodied, but that is irrelevant. The power is best used when a majority of PCs are bloodied, so again, a smart player will wait to do Healing Words until after multilple PCs are bloodied and then do Healer's Mercy instead. It's actually more healing than Healer's Word. It still gains the Cleric's Wisdom bonus and many other bonuses, it just does not gain the D6's for Healer's Word itself. So, healing 3 PCs for 5 + ~10 hit points (in the example above with Wis 18 and a Healer's Brooch) is much better than healing 1 PC of 8 + ~10 hit points with Healing Word. 2.5 times as much better. On the same round, the Cleric can then use a minor action to throw a Healing Word at any of the PCs that is still bloodied. It gets even better with powers like Beacon of Hope, etc. The Channel Divinity loss is mostly irrelevant. When PCs have an option or power 1 or power 2, it's not that they are giving up power 2 to use power 1, it's that they are MORE flexible than other PCs who do not have a choice of which of 2 powers to use. Channel Divinity is powerful because it gives more options. One cannot view it as Channel Divinity is weak because it gives more options. The Cleric being Weakened is also a pretty minor limitation considering how much healing Healer's Word does. There are a lot of Cleric powers like Hymn of Resurgence or Astral Seal where Weakened does not really impact the Cleric on the next round that significantly. All in all, people who downplay the usefulness and power of Healer's Mercy are not having their players use it effectively in the game. It can be absolutely overwhelming and I wouldn't be surprised if WotC does nerf it someday. [/QUOTE]
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