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Battle Standard of Healing and Healer's Brooch: overpowered healing?
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<blockquote data-quote="eamon" data-source="post: 5093853" data-attributes="member: 51942"><p>The way I see it, activating the healing standard represents using a power. Similarly, casting Flaming sphere is using a power. Using a flaming sphere to attack is... using a power. These are active uses; you must be conscious and perform an action to do the,</p><p></p><p>On the other hand, using a flaming sphere to block a hallway isn't "using a power" in this context (other than at the moment you place the sphere there). If you think that any and all eventual consequences of a power are considered using a power in this context - well, where do you draw the line? I saved my friend over there with a healing power, and now he hit you - <em>just as intended</em> - am I "using a power to damage an enemy"? <strong>Considering indirect effects to be "using a power" is a can of worms.</strong></p><p></p><p>Clearly, there mere fact that a Healing standard's power <em>eventually</em>, <em>indirectly</em> causes healing doesn't automatically mean that you're using a power at the moment that the healing happens to occur.</p><p></p><p>Sure, there are mitigating circumstances here - the healing standard's power is obviously intended to heal, so while indirect, the healing isn't merely incidental; and the healing is directly mentioned in the power, so cause and effect are more clear-cut.</p><p></p><p>But still, Colmarr's stance is hardly an "Extraordinary claim". It looks quite reasonable to me.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="eamon, post: 5093853, member: 51942"] The way I see it, activating the healing standard represents using a power. Similarly, casting Flaming sphere is using a power. Using a flaming sphere to attack is... using a power. These are active uses; you must be conscious and perform an action to do the, On the other hand, using a flaming sphere to block a hallway isn't "using a power" in this context (other than at the moment you place the sphere there). If you think that any and all eventual consequences of a power are considered using a power in this context - well, where do you draw the line? I saved my friend over there with a healing power, and now he hit you - [I]just as intended[/I] - am I "using a power to damage an enemy"? [B]Considering indirect effects to be "using a power" is a can of worms.[/B] Clearly, there mere fact that a Healing standard's power [I]eventually[/I], [I]indirectly[/I] causes healing doesn't automatically mean that you're using a power at the moment that the healing happens to occur. Sure, there are mitigating circumstances here - the healing standard's power is obviously intended to heal, so while indirect, the healing isn't merely incidental; and the healing is directly mentioned in the power, so cause and effect are more clear-cut. But still, Colmarr's stance is hardly an "Extraordinary claim". It looks quite reasonable to me. [/QUOTE]
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