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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 8740220" data-attributes="member: 7030563">Wizard and Barbarian both have a simpler core class than a fighter does.  Consider that there are 34 different choices you can make for fighting style alone in a base fighter.  Rogue and Cleric are not too far off either. Further, having simple class mechanics is not "a weird mess" it is what people wanted and what I believe they still want.  There is a rhyme and reason to it - you build the fighter YOU want to the limits of the optional rules presented at the table you play.  The ability to vary wildly is essential to that flexibility in character design.I did not say the Champion was "vital", but it is the most widely played fighter and in fact the most widely played subclass of all.  Complaining about Champion is like complaining about an IPhone.  Your complaints might be valid, and maybe you can point out all the things other subclasses do better, that champion should also do.  But at the end of the day Champion is good enough to be the top dog in terms of popularity and that makes an argument that it needs to be changed pretty weak overall. Personally I have never played a champion and I never would unless it was a tournament-style one shot with pregen characters.  It is not what I am looking for in a figther or PC in general.  That doesn't mean other people should take it and be able to if they want to (and MANY do).  There are plenty of build options to suit me, both inside and outside fighter.</blockquote>

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