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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 8740625" data-attributes="member: 7030563">I quoted you.  Perhaps I misunderstood what you meant, but "wierd mess" is what you saidFighters are proficient in 49 different weapons and armor at first level, in addition to a fighting style and 2nd wind. At 1st level Wizards have 9 spells, including cantrips they have to keep track of.The fighter base class is more complex than the wizard base class.  It just is.  You can build either of them to be simple or complex overall, but there is more for a fighter to keep track of with weapons, armor, action surge, second wind, extra attack, inbdomitatble etc.Wizards have spell casting, arcane recovery and that is it until 18th level.Here is a 2022 ranking that puts it ahead of battlemaster in popularity:[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.thegamer.com/dungeons-dragons-best-fighter-subclasses-ranked-popularity-dnd-gunslinger-arcane-archer-cavalier/[/URL]And even if it is losing ground, it is undoubtedly one of the most popular subclasses by far.I am ok with the Hexblade as is .... and if what you are saying is true, so are a lot of gamers.  I think Hexblade is by far the most popular Warlock (probably because of critical role to be honest).  I prefer other Warlocks, even for bladelocks but each to his own.Multiple classes do have chassis as simple as the fighter.  As noted earlier Wizard (even if you don't agree) and Barbarian (which you did not comment on).</blockquote>