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<blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 8772877" data-attributes="member: 7030563">They are causing advantage every round and that is something I can stop with one attack.&nbsp; If I can stop a PC with one attack then sure, but usually you can't do that.I can attack and kill the owl and that is one less advantage the very next turn or I can attack the PC and that is no difference the next turn.Finally &quot;biggest threat&quot; strategy is not usually a very good strategy, for either the PCs or the enemy, concentrating fire and starting with weaker enemies is generally a better strategy and you can find all kinds of videos and optmization discussions focused on that.&nbsp; Those discussions are targeted at the PCs but it is equally true for the bad guys.No only attacks that can down an enemy might have an effect and attacks that kill an enemy (like the one that I just used on the familiar) have an affect. Other stuff doesn't.&nbsp; Healing does&nbsp; not affect it either unless you bring up someone who is downed.Again either it is powerful or&nbsp; it is not.&nbsp; Advantage might have no impact or it might enable sneak attack&nbsp; or it might cause a crit.&nbsp; FWIW most combat-oriented battlemaster maneuvers always have an affect.&nbsp; Not all of&nbsp; them, but most of them.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ECMO3, post: 8772877, member: 7030563"] They are causing advantage every round and that is something I can stop with one attack. If I can stop a PC with one attack then sure, but usually you can't do that. I can attack and kill the owl and that is one less advantage the very next turn or I can attack the PC and that is no difference the next turn. Finally "biggest threat" strategy is not usually a very good strategy, for either the PCs or the enemy, concentrating fire and starting with weaker enemies is generally a better strategy and you can find all kinds of videos and optmization discussions focused on that. Those discussions are targeted at the PCs but it is equally true for the bad guys. No only attacks that can down an enemy might have an effect and attacks that kill an enemy (like the one that I just used on the familiar) have an affect. Other stuff doesn't. Healing does not affect it either unless you bring up someone who is downed. Again either it is powerful or it is not. Advantage might have no impact or it might enable sneak attack or it might cause a crit. FWIW most combat-oriented battlemaster maneuvers always have an affect. Not all of them, but most of them. [/QUOTE]

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