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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Zardnaar" data-source="post: 6997252" data-attributes="member: 6716779">Erm we already know that. The issue is DPR is more or less all the champion gets and the pother fighter class is competitive in that just using the superiority dice to deal damage which is a bad use of them. That is at the most basic. The other manoeuvres do better things than DPR and the BM tends to be better at DPR than the champion who is supposed to be good at fighting. For example if there is a Rogue in the party the Battlemaster gets a massive boost to damage.Combat also goes by fast in 5E due to weak monsters, a 5 round fight is kind of long 1-3 rounds is more typical 10 rounds is almost unheard of.</blockquote>