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<blockquote data-quote="two" data-source="post: 4563160" data-attributes="member: 9002">DFF RateWell that's not really the case.&nbsp; Everyone is glad when they hit.&nbsp; Just the hammer guys don't might AS MUCH when they miss.Also, this is a very complicated question, because &quot;in real life&quot; there is the tricky business of &quot;overkill.&quot;Yea the sword does more damage, but how much of the time is it wasted, i.e. it kills the bad guy but a miss by the hammer guy (while doing less damage) also is enough to kill it?&nbsp; Or simply a hit by the hammer guy was enough too?&nbsp; In which case doing more damage like the sword can is &quot;overkill&quot; i.e. not needed, useless.The time that more damage really matters in a fight is when it ends the fight sooner, i.e. you get a kill faster than the slightly-lower-damage guy.So you need to look for times when the sword hit did enough damage (in aggregate including previous higher-damage hits) to drop the foe faster than the hammer guy would.This is really hard to say and the only way to get a clear answer I think would be to run a simulation, like 10,000 fights vs. various enemies, and see which one really did better in the &quot;drop foe faster&quot; category.You don't really care about damage after all, you care about dropping the enemy faster.&nbsp; They are related, but not in a straight-forward way (if you do 2x as much damage as another guy, I suspect your DFF rate will be more than 2x as much as the lower damage guy, probably sometimes like 3 or 3.5).&nbsp; When the damage output is very close (difference of +1 to +4)... I wonder.My gut tells me that if you run a simulation vs. various types of opponents (high ac, moderate, low, lots of HP, few, etc.) there won't be a significant difference in &quot;DFF&quot; rate, i.e. &quot;drop foe faster&quot; rate.But I can't say. My Excel-fu is, like, weak dude.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="two, post: 4563160, member: 9002"] [b]DFF Rate[/b] Well that's not really the case. Everyone is glad when they hit. Just the hammer guys don't might AS MUCH when they miss. Also, this is a very complicated question, because "in real life" there is the tricky business of "overkill." Yea the sword does more damage, but how much of the time is it wasted, i.e. it kills the bad guy but a miss by the hammer guy (while doing less damage) also is enough to kill it? Or simply a hit by the hammer guy was enough too? In which case doing more damage like the sword can is "overkill" i.e. not needed, useless. The time that more damage really matters in a fight is when it ends the fight sooner, i.e. you get a kill faster than the slightly-lower-damage guy. So you need to look for times when the sword hit did enough damage (in aggregate including previous higher-damage hits) to drop the foe faster than the hammer guy would. This is really hard to say and the only way to get a clear answer I think would be to run a simulation, like 10,000 fights vs. various enemies, and see which one really did better in the "drop foe faster" category. You don't really care about damage after all, you care about dropping the enemy faster. They are related, but not in a straight-forward way (if you do 2x as much damage as another guy, I suspect your DFF rate will be more than 2x as much as the lower damage guy, probably sometimes like 3 or 3.5). When the damage output is very close (difference of +1 to +4)... I wonder. My gut tells me that if you run a simulation vs. various types of opponents (high ac, moderate, low, lots of HP, few, etc.) there won't be a significant difference in "DFF" rate, i.e. "drop foe faster" rate. But I can't say. My Excel-fu is, like, weak dude. [/QUOTE]

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