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<blockquote data-quote="Mengu" data-source="post: 4564843" data-attributes="member: 65726">I'll try it with the following:&nbsp;Dragonborn Pseudo-RagerStr 18Con 14Dex 13Int 8Wis 14Cha 12Wearing Scale, using long sword and shield. Feat Toughness. (basically the fighter in my group with Battlerage Vigor instead of Weapon Talent).Tide of IronCleave&nbsp;Dwarf RagerStr 16Con 18Dex 12Int 10Wis 14Cha 8Wearing chain, wielding Maul. Feat Dwarven weapon training.Brash StrikeCrushing Surge&nbsp;The dwarf will basically have 2 points less attack bonus, 3 points less AC, 2 points less reflex, but will have many more temp hit points, and will do more damage.&nbsp;I'm not sure if it will be worthwhile for the standard dragonborn to lose the attack bonus for 2 temp hp's. If I was building from scratch, I'd give the pseudo battle-rager dragonborn a 16 con.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mengu, post: 4564843, member: 65726"] I'll try it with the following: Dragonborn Pseudo-Rager Str 18 Con 14 Dex 13 Int 8 Wis 14 Cha 12 Wearing Scale, using long sword and shield. Feat Toughness. (basically the fighter in my group with Battlerage Vigor instead of Weapon Talent). Tide of Iron Cleave Dwarf Rager Str 16 Con 18 Dex 12 Int 10 Wis 14 Cha 8 Wearing chain, wielding Maul. Feat Dwarven weapon training. Brash Strike Crushing Surge The dwarf will basically have 2 points less attack bonus, 3 points less AC, 2 points less reflex, but will have many more temp hit points, and will do more damage. I'm not sure if it will be worthwhile for the standard dragonborn to lose the attack bonus for 2 temp hp's. If I was building from scratch, I'd give the pseudo battle-rager dragonborn a 16 con. [/QUOTE]

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