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<blockquote data-quote="Garthanos" data-source="post: 4860058" data-attributes="member: 82504"><p>You are right and the value of feats is a tough one to account for.. </p><p></p><p>Yes we are comparing </p><p>plate alone(it cost a feat).</p><p>scale+feat </p><p>chain+feat+brv damage boost.</p><p></p><p>Like the barbarian multiclass feat which basically gives me+2 damage...for 1/2 to 1/3 the time(depending on encounter freq)... plus a nice skill... tons of bang and flavor for my feat buck.</p><p></p><p>So is the rare brv damage boost +1 (ignore axe synergy for the moment because that has its own cost as does the mobility loss from chain.) </p><p>Worth the loss of a continuous all the time gain of 1 AC for the scale user?</p><p></p><p>For many folk the improvement from chain to scale is worth a feat, if that is still true here. then that damage boost needs to be valued compared to other feats (but we cant value it that way... because .. you are only giving up something approximately like 1 nice feat (expertise?) for the entirety of your BRV... so the damage boost alone probably should come out looking shabby unless you also didn't get thp when wearing that scale armor.</p><p></p><p>I think I am convinced the damage boost might just be appropriately shabby(it seems likely they undermined it on purpose while keeping what it did cleverly the same... but now when it does its thing is more defender like). </p><p></p><p>If the damage boost is appropriately shabby .. then the scale armor now is more useful than chain.. </p><p> </p><p>Did I just die from circular logic?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Garthanos, post: 4860058, member: 82504"] You are right and the value of feats is a tough one to account for.. Yes we are comparing plate alone(it cost a feat). scale+feat chain+feat+brv damage boost. Like the barbarian multiclass feat which basically gives me+2 damage...for 1/2 to 1/3 the time(depending on encounter freq)... plus a nice skill... tons of bang and flavor for my feat buck. So is the rare brv damage boost +1 (ignore axe synergy for the moment because that has its own cost as does the mobility loss from chain.) Worth the loss of a continuous all the time gain of 1 AC for the scale user? For many folk the improvement from chain to scale is worth a feat, if that is still true here. then that damage boost needs to be valued compared to other feats (but we cant value it that way... because .. you are only giving up something approximately like 1 nice feat (expertise?) for the entirety of your BRV... so the damage boost alone probably should come out looking shabby unless you also didn't get thp when wearing that scale armor. I think I am convinced the damage boost might just be appropriately shabby(it seems likely they undermined it on purpose while keeping what it did cleverly the same... but now when it does its thing is more defender like). If the damage boost is appropriately shabby .. then the scale armor now is more useful than chain.. Did I just die from circular logic? [/QUOTE]
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