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<blockquote data-quote="Nail" data-source="post: 4863278" data-attributes="member: 224">Right.&nbsp; That's the question I had immediately after reading the errata.&nbsp; Now that I've seen it (only once!<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />) in play, it's become the central question for my human BRV fighter.&nbsp; (Dwarven BRV Fighters have more incentive to stay with hammer and chain, IMO.&nbsp; I'm ignoring the dwarven case.)&lt;chuckle&gt;&nbsp;First: The damage boost DOES NOT scale with tier.&nbsp; So we can just throw that out completely.&nbsp; Red herring.Second: I think the chain armor benefit (+1 or +2 damage if you have THPs) might happen 33% of the time in our group. That's in line with keterys estimate.&nbsp; In our group, the &quot;chain damage benefit&quot; will happen mostly when our warlord uses Commander's Strike -- the THPs simply won't be there by the time my turn comes 'round again (as DrSpunj pointed out above).Third: For a non-dwarven BRV fighter, the numbers are stacked against chain armor.&nbsp; The ~33% chance for extra damage is not worth the -1 AC and -1 checks....and it gets worse above Heroic Tier.&nbsp; ...And the headache of having to keep track of when to apply it is - IMO, obviously - a huge strike against it.I think 50% sounds high.&nbsp; But maybe I'll &quot;play-test&quot; it another gaming session, and see how things shake out.Aw, come on.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused&nbsp; &nbsp; :confused:"&nbsp; data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" />&nbsp; Fighters are built to be in the thick of it.&nbsp; It's not at all surprising that a fighter is getting hit nearly every round, and that's for over 4 points of damage, if not for over 8 points of damage.Auras, on-going damage, etc?&nbsp; Surely your fighter is getting hit with these....<img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/devil.png"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":devil:" title="Devil&nbsp; &nbsp; :devil:" data-shortname=":devil:" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Nail, post: 4863278, member: 224"] Right. That's the question I had immediately after reading the errata. Now that I've seen it (only once!:)) in play, it's become the central question for my human BRV fighter. (Dwarven BRV Fighters have more incentive to stay with hammer and chain, IMO. I'm ignoring the dwarven case.) <chuckle> [COLOR="Orange"]First[/COLOR]: The damage boost DOES NOT scale with tier. So we can just throw that out completely. Red herring. [COLOR="orange"]Second[/COLOR]: I think the chain armor benefit (+1 or +2 damage if you have THPs) [I]might[/I] happen 33% of the time [U]in our group[/U]. That's in line with [B]keterys[/B] estimate. In our group, the "chain damage benefit" will happen mostly when our warlord uses Commander's Strike -- the THPs simply won't be there by the time my turn comes 'round again (as [B]DrSpunj [/B]pointed out above). [COLOR="orange"]Third[/COLOR]: For a non-dwarven BRV fighter, the numbers are stacked against chain armor. The ~33% chance for extra damage is not worth the -1 AC and -1 checks....and it gets worse above Heroic Tier. ...And the headache of having to keep track of when to apply it is - IMO, obviously - a huge strike against it. I think 50% sounds high. But maybe I'll "play-test" it another gaming session, and see how things shake out. Aw, come on. :confused: Fighters are built to be in the thick of it. It's not at all surprising that a fighter is getting hit nearly every round, and that's for over 4 points of damage, if not for over 8 points of damage. Auras, on-going damage, etc? Surely your fighter is getting hit with these....:devil: [/QUOTE]

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