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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Elric" data-source="post: 4848559" data-attributes="member: 1139">That's pretty bad.  It seems like almost none of them have magic armor.  They should just go buy +1 Armor for the AC boost.  It's well known that the Con Shaman's AC is badly messed up; you need to get 13 Strength and pick up Chainmail Proficiency to avoid having terrible AC even at low levels (and the problem only gets worse at higher levels).  I didn't actually propose BRV as Resistance, though I do think that implementing BRV as Resistance would have been superior to the temp HP option in Martial Power (simpler and less open to abuse because as it stands you can stack BRV with abilities that provide resistance).  What I proposed was just reducing the number of temp HP BRV gives you.Quick and dirty take on BRV implemented as resistance (note that I'd remove the temp HP stacking entirely):Battlerager Vigor: You gain Resistance (1+ Con mod) / 2, minimum 1, to close attacks and melee attacks.  When wearing no armor, light armor, or chainmail, you gain a +1 bonus to damage rolls with melee and close weapon attacks.  This bonus increases to +2 if you’re wielding an axe, a hammer, a mace, or a pick.Feats:Improved Vigor: Change the sentence on Battlerager Vigor to “If you have the Battlerager Vigor class feature, increase the resistance it grants by 1 (2 at 11th level, 3 at 21st level).”Dwarven Stoneblood: Change to a Paragon feat: “Add one half your Constitution modifier to the Resistance granted by your Battlerager Vigor.”  Note that doing the calculation out shows that a character with Dwarven Stoneblood gets Resistance from Battlerager Vigor equal to his Constitution modifier.Compared to RAW, BRV would be much easier to run.  It would be less subject to abuse both at low levels (where the temp HP can get too high, especially with Dwarven Stoneblood) and at high levels (where abilities that grant Resistance can make you nearly indestructible).  Two problems that I see with this approach are that the ease of getting Resistance at high levels (Tarrasque Plate, for example, is really powerful) might make BRV a little weak in Epic games where characters take advantage of those abilities, and BRV Resistance overlaps with other thematic BRV abilities like a Goliath’s racial power or the Dreadnought Paragon Path.</blockquote>

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