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<blockquote data-quote="MaxKaladin" data-source="post: 2067407" data-attributes="member: 1196"><p>Some points:</p><p></p><p>1. Starbuck is NOT a very good interrogator. She never got anything useful from Leoben (the cylon) and evidently felt sympathy for him at the end. She's a pretty lousy interrogator so we're not seeing "Super-Starbuck" here.</p><p></p><p>2. Starbuck seems to be a good shot -- and that's what they said, not "sniper". Being a sniper implies training in a lot of things beyond just putting a bullet on a target. I can easily see the kind of coordination and "instinct" required for putting a bullet where you want it being equally applicable to flying a viper and shooting a rifle. Besides, I suspect the "best shot" thing was partially justification. Starbuck wanted to act and not sit around so she used that as a justification. Adama went along with it because he felt better sending someone he knew and trusted and who he knew would watch out for his son along instead of just sending random marines. </p><p></p><p>3. The producers said somewhere or other that the Galactica was on a short crew because of the transfer and I'm pretty sure they specifically mentioned being short on marines. </p><p></p><p>4. People are forgetting that there are _two_ Adamas in the fleet: Captain Lee "Apollo" Adama and Commander William "Husker" Adama. If either is a cylon (and I don't think either is) then it could just as well be Apollo. We don't know if he was replaced somewhere along the line or if he was adopted. It could be that the Adamas couldn't have kids and adopted instead and wound up with a pint size sleeper agend by chance. Not that I believe this, of course. I think it was just an attempt at sowing dissent that appears to be working (look at how Roslin is looking at Commander Adama at the end). </p><p></p><p>5. This could be connected to #4, but nobody has commented on the dream sequence where Leoben was whispering "Cylon!" to Roslin and pointing behind her. This could be a couple of things: One is that he was calling to her as a Cylon using the word to gain her attention and pointing to her pursuers. The other is that he was saying there was a cylon behind her. The troops in the woods looked like Galactica Marines to me, so if it was the latter it could be part of why she was looking funny at Adama at the end. </p><p></p><p>6. This episode seems to have shown the first deliberate act of treason by Baltar. Prior to this, he has actually been serving loyally aside from the understandable reluctance to reveal the cylon in his head. His "betrayal" before the war was unwitting and not an deliberate. If he doesn't go to Adama, this will be his first deliberate treason. I'm rather sad to see his downfall happening. I've come to feel more and more sympathy for him as the episodes go no. I know part of that is instinctively sympathizing with someone being hounded by a religous zealot, but it's also the fact that -- until now anyway -- he has generally been trying to do help out as much as he can and generally make up for what turned out to be quite possibly the most spectacular mistake in the history of the colonies. I don't think Six wanted him to make a cylon detector. I think she was toying with him in Adama's quarters and led him to ask for a nuke and then left him hanging thinking he was going to look like a fool but he's very intelligent and he had a flash of insight that led him to actually figure out how to make a cylon detector. </p><p></p><p>As he turns actual traitor, I suspect I'll like him less. </p><p></p><p>Baltar strikes me as a good example of a high INT, low WIS character.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MaxKaladin, post: 2067407, member: 1196"] Some points: 1. Starbuck is NOT a very good interrogator. She never got anything useful from Leoben (the cylon) and evidently felt sympathy for him at the end. She's a pretty lousy interrogator so we're not seeing "Super-Starbuck" here. 2. Starbuck seems to be a good shot -- and that's what they said, not "sniper". Being a sniper implies training in a lot of things beyond just putting a bullet on a target. I can easily see the kind of coordination and "instinct" required for putting a bullet where you want it being equally applicable to flying a viper and shooting a rifle. Besides, I suspect the "best shot" thing was partially justification. Starbuck wanted to act and not sit around so she used that as a justification. Adama went along with it because he felt better sending someone he knew and trusted and who he knew would watch out for his son along instead of just sending random marines. 3. The producers said somewhere or other that the Galactica was on a short crew because of the transfer and I'm pretty sure they specifically mentioned being short on marines. 4. People are forgetting that there are _two_ Adamas in the fleet: Captain Lee "Apollo" Adama and Commander William "Husker" Adama. If either is a cylon (and I don't think either is) then it could just as well be Apollo. We don't know if he was replaced somewhere along the line or if he was adopted. It could be that the Adamas couldn't have kids and adopted instead and wound up with a pint size sleeper agend by chance. Not that I believe this, of course. I think it was just an attempt at sowing dissent that appears to be working (look at how Roslin is looking at Commander Adama at the end). 5. This could be connected to #4, but nobody has commented on the dream sequence where Leoben was whispering "Cylon!" to Roslin and pointing behind her. This could be a couple of things: One is that he was calling to her as a Cylon using the word to gain her attention and pointing to her pursuers. The other is that he was saying there was a cylon behind her. The troops in the woods looked like Galactica Marines to me, so if it was the latter it could be part of why she was looking funny at Adama at the end. 6. This episode seems to have shown the first deliberate act of treason by Baltar. Prior to this, he has actually been serving loyally aside from the understandable reluctance to reveal the cylon in his head. His "betrayal" before the war was unwitting and not an deliberate. If he doesn't go to Adama, this will be his first deliberate treason. I'm rather sad to see his downfall happening. I've come to feel more and more sympathy for him as the episodes go no. I know part of that is instinctively sympathizing with someone being hounded by a religous zealot, but it's also the fact that -- until now anyway -- he has generally been trying to do help out as much as he can and generally make up for what turned out to be quite possibly the most spectacular mistake in the history of the colonies. I don't think Six wanted him to make a cylon detector. I think she was toying with him in Adama's quarters and led him to ask for a nuke and then left him hanging thinking he was going to look like a fool but he's very intelligent and he had a flash of insight that led him to actually figure out how to make a cylon detector. As he turns actual traitor, I suspect I'll like him less. Baltar strikes me as a good example of a high INT, low WIS character. [/QUOTE]
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