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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Elf Witch" data-source="post: 2477385" data-attributes="member: 9037">This was a very good thought provoking post. And it is true that if a character has no room for growth there is little to write about. I really think Star Trek Next Gen suffered from this. With execption of Data and Worf the others just seemed to have no room for any personal growth. I often thought they came across smug and sanctimonies. Now IMO DS9 did not have this flaw. The characters all had room for growth From Sisko to Kira , Bashir and Odo. I think the character with the least growth was O'Brian but he was never a boring character. And these people with the exception of Quark had a lot of postive and moral characteristics.On Firefly I think Mal is the heart of the show the one that makes it possible for the others to grow.Now on BSG I have not seen that much growth yet. Tigh is still a drunk, Starbuck has not shown any growth at all. I know it is early yet and I hope to see some growth of these characters. One compliant I have heard about old BSG was how cheesy it was and that it did not have the depth of the new show. These are true to some extent. (A little rant here it bugs the living daylight out of me though when the show is dimissed and sneered at by fans of the new show. After all if it was not for the old show and that shows fan who kept it a live and viable you would not have the new show) rant over.I saw the show when I was a young 18 pregnant with my son and it inspired me. It was fun and we had not seen anything like that on TV since Trek went off the air. I found the characters to be what I considered heroes. Also I liked the loyalty they had for each other. Adama was a wise leader a less cranky Gandulf. I think if you rolled Roslin and Bill Adama into one character you would have the old Adama. Coming from a messed up family myself I liked seeing a family that loved each other and got along the way Adama, Athena and Apollo did. For all its 70s tv chessyness I consider it one of my top ten shows of all times.So I was a little in shock over the new show. There are some things I really like about the new show Gaius Baltar is a great character even if he did not on purpose help the cyclons destroy the colonies. As I have said before I think the character of Roslin rocks. One of my favorite scenes is the one from the mini series where she gives the order for the ships with FTL to leave behind the ships that didn't have it.Apollo was my favorite character on the old show and he is my favorite on the new show. They both had the ability and the will to do what they felt was right. Both seemed to have a strong sense of personal ethics. I was not that impressed with Adama in the mini series and I am still not. I think he makes mistakes some bad ones and don't I feel that he comes across as a strong leader. He would not inspire me to follow him. I cannot stand Tigh or Starbuck though I would like to see Starbuck try and get her act together she has a lot that the fleet needs.One thing I really like about the new show is seeing the support staff like Tyrol and Cally. The ones who were not career military like Cally who was using it as a way to go to dental school. We never saw that in the old show though it was different because they had been at war with the cyclons for a thousand yahern. I like the new cyclons because they are more interesting and for me I just can't cheer there defeat because it is not black and white. From what I have seen they may well have had a valid point in their act of destroying their creators who enslaved them. For all we know they have evolved into a sentient race with the ability to love , hate and have a soul. Something that the humans even Adama are not willing to consider. Though the old folks of old BSG were smarter they were not the ones who created the cyclons. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

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