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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Fast Learner" data-source="post: 2477408" data-attributes="member: 649">I disagree about Starbuck. For example, in season 1, episode 4, she grew through her guilt about her role with the death of Zack, through acknowledging her mistake, and into an understanding that her responsibility goes beyond her personal preferences and fears.That was good growth. Watch the episode again, if you can, and I think you'll see it, too. (I just finished watching it before I posted this.)She's never going to get over being a hotshot: that's the definition of her character. But her other stuff I think she's growing through.And Tigh: no, he's still an alcoholic. But he is becoming cognizant of how much it's ruining his life and the lives of others. He has tried, a couple of times, to get back on the wagon, and even seemed to succeed for a couple of episodes. He also seems to be coming close to the point where if others staged an intervention, he might well be able to get back on the wagon, at least for a while... the mistakes he made while the old man was out are just the kinds of "bottom of the barrel" problems that can spur a person to finally do something.But he'll need to get his wife out of his life to do it: she's not just an enabler, she feeds him booze and bad ideas. (BTW, I no longer think she's a Cylon. Just a really poisonous person.)</blockquote>