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<blockquote data-quote="WizarDru" data-source="post: 2493224" data-attributes="member: 151"><p>Yes and No. I think the issue here is do you consider a clone to be a human being? It's the same as saying they have 'artificial intelligence'. At what point do they stop being considered 'artificially' intelligent. When they pass a Turing test? Mind you, I think Baltar is a BIG LIAR; a very lucky one, but a LIAR all the same. I'm not sure he knew if Sharon was a cylon or not.</p><p></p><p>I do think that it's possible to make a clone who's genetic material defies the normal mutations you'd expect. If Boomer's DNA, for example, has a some non-standard variances (or more likely, the lack thereof), that'd be something an advanced test might find. Who knows what shortcuts the cylons have taken? Which isn't to say Baltar's technobabble isn't just that. We'll have to wait and see on that one.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Dumb question: when did one of the human models do that?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Heh. That's a big assumption. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> We don't know any of the limitations or failures of the process, yet. I'm willing to bet the human model cylons have lots of flaws and drawbacks...we just haven't seen them blatantly laid out, as of yet. For that matter, we don't know exactly how they're trying to reproduce....there may be restrictions based on holy doctrine which are limiting their approach.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>From one of the many dead, irradiated people? I'm not sure I'd trust whatever the dead had to offer, assuming they could be salvaged. Within 15 minutes after death, the body begins cooling, which certainly creates problems for the human reproductive cycle, which is dependent on strict control of the internal body temperature to maintain fertility. I'm sure there's a whole lot of biological reasons that could be given.</p><p></p><p>More importantly, I think a big factor that can't be discounted is the cylon's relgious and social outlooks. There may be far better ways to accomplish what they're doing...but their scriptures and their issues with mankind may get in the way of that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="WizarDru, post: 2493224, member: 151"] Yes and No. I think the issue here is do you consider a clone to be a human being? It's the same as saying they have 'artificial intelligence'. At what point do they stop being considered 'artificially' intelligent. When they pass a Turing test? Mind you, I think Baltar is a BIG LIAR; a very lucky one, but a LIAR all the same. I'm not sure he knew if Sharon was a cylon or not. I do think that it's possible to make a clone who's genetic material defies the normal mutations you'd expect. If Boomer's DNA, for example, has a some non-standard variances (or more likely, the lack thereof), that'd be something an advanced test might find. Who knows what shortcuts the cylons have taken? Which isn't to say Baltar's technobabble isn't just that. We'll have to wait and see on that one. Dumb question: when did one of the human models do that? Heh. That's a big assumption. :D We don't know any of the limitations or failures of the process, yet. I'm willing to bet the human model cylons have lots of flaws and drawbacks...we just haven't seen them blatantly laid out, as of yet. For that matter, we don't know exactly how they're trying to reproduce....there may be restrictions based on holy doctrine which are limiting their approach. From one of the many dead, irradiated people? I'm not sure I'd trust whatever the dead had to offer, assuming they could be salvaged. Within 15 minutes after death, the body begins cooling, which certainly creates problems for the human reproductive cycle, which is dependent on strict control of the internal body temperature to maintain fertility. I'm sure there's a whole lot of biological reasons that could be given. More importantly, I think a big factor that can't be discounted is the cylon's relgious and social outlooks. There may be far better ways to accomplish what they're doing...but their scriptures and their issues with mankind may get in the way of that. [/QUOTE]
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