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<blockquote data-quote="Steel_Wind" data-source="post: 3169455" data-attributes="member: 20741"><p>Actually, EN World is one of the most reasonable places to discuss BSG on the net. Signal to noise is extremely high here.</p><p></p><p>The fundamental problem with the <em>genocide as a moral wrong </em> argument for me is:</p><p></p><p>1 - The Cylons have actively taken steps to annihilate the human race in a premeditated, deliberate, unprovoked, sustained and concerted effort over the course of <strong>years</strong> at genocide. From 12 billion humans down to 42,000. The Cylons are 99.996% of the way to their goal and they are not letting up.</p><p></p><p>This is not the time to measure ones blows. Nor is the reasoning here in the least motivated by some analogy to the Reich. This is not a hate- filled final solution scenario carried out on innocents.</p><p></p><p>There are no Cylon innocents. Not a single one of them.</p><p></p><p>2 - You ascribe to the Cylons a status as a "race" that I would not willingly grant them so lightly. They are machines. Created, not born. That cannot even procreate on their own.</p><p></p><p><em>Mr. Smith voice on</em>: "We have a name for an organism on this planet that cannot procreate on its own. It is called a<em> virus</em>."</p><p></p><p>Call it wrong, call it evil..call it whatever you want. I call it necessary for the survival of the species. Against this, no argument or resort to ethics is of much consequence. Given the prisoners dilemma the RTF finds itself in, "us or them?" It's them. Every. Single. Time.</p><p></p><p>The above points re: "they played the genocide card first" and "lack of racial status" are just icing on a well baked and presented cake.</p><p></p><p>I'm a liberal and I don't believe in capital punishment. (Edit - not an invitaiton to discuss further). Point is, I am not presenting some twitchy right-wing reaction here. I have a deep and abiding serenity concerning the correctness of using the virus as a weapon in this instance. </p><p></p><p>I am genuinely suprised people are having difficulty with it at all.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Steel_Wind, post: 3169455, member: 20741"] Actually, EN World is one of the most reasonable places to discuss BSG on the net. Signal to noise is extremely high here. The fundamental problem with the [I]genocide as a moral wrong [/I] argument for me is: 1 - The Cylons have actively taken steps to annihilate the human race in a premeditated, deliberate, unprovoked, sustained and concerted effort over the course of [B]years[/B] at genocide. From 12 billion humans down to 42,000. The Cylons are 99.996% of the way to their goal and they are not letting up. This is not the time to measure ones blows. Nor is the reasoning here in the least motivated by some analogy to the Reich. This is not a hate- filled final solution scenario carried out on innocents. There are no Cylon innocents. Not a single one of them. 2 - You ascribe to the Cylons a status as a "race" that I would not willingly grant them so lightly. They are machines. Created, not born. That cannot even procreate on their own. [i]Mr. Smith voice on[/i]: "We have a name for an organism on this planet that cannot procreate on its own. It is called a[I] virus[/I]." Call it wrong, call it evil..call it whatever you want. I call it necessary for the survival of the species. Against this, no argument or resort to ethics is of much consequence. Given the prisoners dilemma the RTF finds itself in, "us or them?" It's them. Every. Single. Time. The above points re: "they played the genocide card first" and "lack of racial status" are just icing on a well baked and presented cake. I'm a liberal and I don't believe in capital punishment. (Edit - not an invitaiton to discuss further). Point is, I am not presenting some twitchy right-wing reaction here. I have a deep and abiding serenity concerning the correctness of using the virus as a weapon in this instance. I am genuinely suprised people are having difficulty with it at all. [/QUOTE]
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