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<blockquote data-quote="LightPhoenix" data-source="post: 3172297" data-attributes="member: 115"><p>By all rights, I should ignore everything you say from here on out, but apparently I'm not thinking now either. I'll just say disagreeing with you doesn't mean I don't think, and I find it offensive that you should say that.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>We <em>are</em> coming from different directions, I don't argue that. My argument, with regards to the moral decision, is that there really isn't one.</p><p></p><p>The Cylons are not sympathetic. Let's put aside the fact that the Cylons are indeed sentient (they are AI) or that they are machines, for the moment. The Cylons, regardless of that, are completely unsympathetic, for reasons I've stated before. It doesn't matter that they're machines, it doesn't matter that they are sentient. That's all moot.</p><p></p><p>Genocide is <em>justified</em> in this case, I would not argue that. There's a difference between something being justified and something being morally right or wrong. Because they've set up a situation where genocide is completely justified, there is no middle ground for the moral argument. So, morally either you are for genocide, or you aren't. That's it.</p><p></p><p>If the Cylons were presented as more sympathetic, that would be different. Then there'd be more of an argument for justification, and thus a moral middle ground.</p><p></p><p>We're not talking about BSG here, and we never were. Most of this thread has been all of us stating our moral position, and that's it. There's value in discussing the show. I don't see much value in discussing our personal morals, because there's no points to make. Not to mention, as you handily demonstrated, that we'll take it personally, and when we do that, insults start to fly.</p><p></p><p><em>That</em> is the problem with this episode. There's no middle ground to discuss, and so at least personally, I find it's not interesting at all. That leaves out the biological weapon nonsense, which was a flawed premise to begin with.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="LightPhoenix, post: 3172297, member: 115"] By all rights, I should ignore everything you say from here on out, but apparently I'm not thinking now either. I'll just say disagreeing with you doesn't mean I don't think, and I find it offensive that you should say that. We [i]are[/i] coming from different directions, I don't argue that. My argument, with regards to the moral decision, is that there really isn't one. The Cylons are not sympathetic. Let's put aside the fact that the Cylons are indeed sentient (they are AI) or that they are machines, for the moment. The Cylons, regardless of that, are completely unsympathetic, for reasons I've stated before. It doesn't matter that they're machines, it doesn't matter that they are sentient. That's all moot. Genocide is [i]justified[/i] in this case, I would not argue that. There's a difference between something being justified and something being morally right or wrong. Because they've set up a situation where genocide is completely justified, there is no middle ground for the moral argument. So, morally either you are for genocide, or you aren't. That's it. If the Cylons were presented as more sympathetic, that would be different. Then there'd be more of an argument for justification, and thus a moral middle ground. We're not talking about BSG here, and we never were. Most of this thread has been all of us stating our moral position, and that's it. There's value in discussing the show. I don't see much value in discussing our personal morals, because there's no points to make. Not to mention, as you handily demonstrated, that we'll take it personally, and when we do that, insults start to fly. [i]That[/i] is the problem with this episode. There's no middle ground to discuss, and so at least personally, I find it's not interesting at all. That leaves out the biological weapon nonsense, which was a flawed premise to begin with. [/QUOTE]
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