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<blockquote data-quote="Douane" data-source="post: 1281467" data-attributes="member: 157"><p>No problem! Just wanted to offer my input. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> [Not meant in the Cyberpunk 2020 way! (Where input is slang for girlfriend.) <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /> ]</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yuri: " 'Prepare to get bloodied?' You mean I could actually hurt my knuckles while I pound your head into the pavement?"</p><p></p><p>Yuri: "Mingling with lower castes? As if his tainted genes are not enough already."</p><p></p><p><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p></p><p>Probably, few Warriors will ever call Tarnish to a Trial over this (unless it seriously offends their sense of ethics), but many will despise him for it.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>There are some problems with this:</p><p></p><p>1. As you have already guessed there are no libraries at all. (In fact, few clanners will ever see a real book in their lives.) You learned everything you need to know while being raised (either within the sibko or as part of your caste) and will broaden that knowledge with the experience gained in the course of your duty. Anything else will be just unnecessary ballast and therefore waste, quiaff?</p><p></p><p>1a. " [...] those who have experience of the IS life.". There are no such people among the Clans. There has been virtually no contact between the Clans and the Inner Sphere for over 250 years. (But see point 3 below.)</p><p></p><p></p><p>2. The state of information Tarnish is interested in. Many records were lost in the fighting on the Pentagon worlds and when Nicholas started the Second Exodus from there, he was mainly interested in Warriors and adequate support personal (Techs, Scientists and Laborers). Historical knowledge was of no interest to him. (Why preserve anything from very past you are trying to break with?) [And even before that, his own father wasn't really interested in maintaining a cadre of professional historians or anything, he had other priorities: "Overloaded with soldiers and military technicians and lacking experienced farmers and a manual-labor force [...]"]</p><p></p><p></p><p>3. The age and availability of the information: If there is surviving historical information and one manages to actually get his hands on this, it depicts the state the Inner Sphere was in over 250 years ago, at the end of the Star League. (Nothing on the Succession Wars that shaped the IS of today far more than the distant Star League.) While a small amount of information trickled in over the years, it was not very specific and heavily distorted. The perhaps best source of information, the reports of the Dragoons 3009 and 3019 are in no way common knowledge. In fact, only the respective Khans of the Clans have access to this information.</p><p></p><p></p><p>4. The quality of the accessible information: Everything will be skewed, both by the particular point-of-view of the Clans and by the bias against the Inner Sphere.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Thus, the only option open to Tarnish would probably be SI: Star League. (With the danger of drawing conclusions from very misleading information.)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Just for your information from a rules point-of-view: It will take over a year of combat experience to get your Gunnery and Piloting up to skill level 3. (Of course, then it really slows down.)</p><p></p><p>Not meant to dissuade you from your decision; notice that Yuri's skills are even crappier because I faced the same dilemma. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Douane, post: 1281467, member: 157"] No problem! Just wanted to offer my input. :) [Not meant in the Cyberpunk 2020 way! (Where input is slang for girlfriend.) :p ] Yuri: " 'Prepare to get bloodied?' You mean I could actually hurt my knuckles while I pound your head into the pavement?" Yuri: "Mingling with lower castes? As if his tainted genes are not enough already." ;) :D Probably, few Warriors will ever call Tarnish to a Trial over this (unless it seriously offends their sense of ethics), but many will despise him for it. There are some problems with this: 1. As you have already guessed there are no libraries at all. (In fact, few clanners will ever see a real book in their lives.) You learned everything you need to know while being raised (either within the sibko or as part of your caste) and will broaden that knowledge with the experience gained in the course of your duty. Anything else will be just unnecessary ballast and therefore waste, quiaff? 1a. " [...] those who have experience of the IS life.". There are no such people among the Clans. There has been virtually no contact between the Clans and the Inner Sphere for over 250 years. (But see point 3 below.) 2. The state of information Tarnish is interested in. Many records were lost in the fighting on the Pentagon worlds and when Nicholas started the Second Exodus from there, he was mainly interested in Warriors and adequate support personal (Techs, Scientists and Laborers). Historical knowledge was of no interest to him. (Why preserve anything from very past you are trying to break with?) [And even before that, his own father wasn't really interested in maintaining a cadre of professional historians or anything, he had other priorities: "Overloaded with soldiers and military technicians and lacking experienced farmers and a manual-labor force [...]"] 3. The age and availability of the information: If there is surviving historical information and one manages to actually get his hands on this, it depicts the state the Inner Sphere was in over 250 years ago, at the end of the Star League. (Nothing on the Succession Wars that shaped the IS of today far more than the distant Star League.) While a small amount of information trickled in over the years, it was not very specific and heavily distorted. The perhaps best source of information, the reports of the Dragoons 3009 and 3019 are in no way common knowledge. In fact, only the respective Khans of the Clans have access to this information. 4. The quality of the accessible information: Everything will be skewed, both by the particular point-of-view of the Clans and by the bias against the Inner Sphere. Thus, the only option open to Tarnish would probably be SI: Star League. (With the danger of drawing conclusions from very misleading information.) Just for your information from a rules point-of-view: It will take over a year of combat experience to get your Gunnery and Piloting up to skill level 3. (Of course, then it really slows down.) Not meant to dissuade you from your decision; notice that Yuri's skills are even crappier because I faced the same dilemma. :) [/QUOTE]
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