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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cergorach" data-source="post: 1910963" data-attributes="member: 725">Nope, that's actually pretty good and if it wasn't presented to me in a preaching manner i think i might have learned a lot. But the tone and the assumptions made inclined me to be less absorbing in the possibly usefull information you presented.That's nice, but i'm not saying the right people shouldn't be informed, i'm saying that how it was done it isn't 'professional' (how i hate the use of that term). And that without providing proof it becomes a trust or distrust issue, on the internet that's a difficult issue at best (the crap some people dare to pull on the internet is scarry).Here you go again wih the assumptions... I actually know a lot about US and Dutch copyright laws, because i like to know when i'm doing something that is not legal. And i actually used a book of law to research the matter, discussing matters with folks that actually are trained to make it (around here anyways), also helps a bit... What i do not know is when people are responsible for  something if a third party broke the law. That's true, But from what i understand, it's common in the rpg industry that publishers often don't 'own' the work and thus can't use or reuse the work in another work of art. Thus if Simpson got permission to use those parts of the image to sell to a publisher, wouldn't the chain of 'ownership' then not stop at the publisher (assuming the publisher doesn't own the work and can't resell it in another form then in a book illustration)?If a+b=c and i don't know b, i can still talk about a.In other words, i don't need 'special' knowledge to 'appropriate' behavior (this sounds more condecending then i intend, let's just say that i don't agree on how it was presented).My train of thought is when i hire an artist: He doesn't ripoff another artist and proclaim it as his work, makes the image to specs x, gets paid on time by me, agrees to let me use it y ways and he gets it done by z time. The same goes for when i illustrate for someone else. I dislike contracts and have dealt without them in the past, if someone wants to use a contract (and it is acceptable) i'm ok as well. To date i have better experiences with folks that didn't use a contract then the folks that did want a signed contract. As for accountability, i take responsibility for any faults i make and make other take responsibility for faults they make.</blockquote>

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