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<blockquote data-quote="DEFCON 1" data-source="post: 9459893" data-attributes="member: 7006"><p>You might actually be surprised just how often improv troupes <em>can</em> improvise full musicals and plays without having a plotted framework to follow a la commedia dell'arte (unless we want to consider standard narrative three-act structure / rising and falling action / stories having a beginning/middle/end to be the framework we are referring to.)</p><p></p><p>Commedia had standard character archetypes, regularly used narrative plotlines and many standard "comedy bits" that were used over and over in all their performances, so their plays were not completely invented on the spot. The dialogue might be new each night (although with the repetitive nature of the plots I'm sure many bits of dialogue that "worked" were used numerous times over as well and would become the "latzi" they used) but the arcs the characters went through and the storylines they followed would be standardized and re-used. But there are many, many improv troupes who will in fact improvise for a full 60 minutes using nothing but a single word as inspiration, completely inventing new characters and new plots along the way that they've never played before-- whether that be numerous independent scenes one after the other (that might be connected thematically but not with a single story), or indeed complete stage plays or musicals with all the acoutrement of an actual written performance, but with all of it made up at the time of performance.</p><p></p><p>My apologies if you do in fact already know about this type of improvisation (as I do not know your relationship to the medium)... it was only your quoted statement that seem to suggest you thought even long-form improv was "pre-plotted" in many regards. But I may have misinterpreted or misunderstood your intention and knowledge behind your statement, so I'm sorry if I was passing on info you were already aware of.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DEFCON 1, post: 9459893, member: 7006"] You might actually be surprised just how often improv troupes [I]can[/I] improvise full musicals and plays without having a plotted framework to follow a la commedia dell'arte (unless we want to consider standard narrative three-act structure / rising and falling action / stories having a beginning/middle/end to be the framework we are referring to.) Commedia had standard character archetypes, regularly used narrative plotlines and many standard "comedy bits" that were used over and over in all their performances, so their plays were not completely invented on the spot. The dialogue might be new each night (although with the repetitive nature of the plots I'm sure many bits of dialogue that "worked" were used numerous times over as well and would become the "latzi" they used) but the arcs the characters went through and the storylines they followed would be standardized and re-used. But there are many, many improv troupes who will in fact improvise for a full 60 minutes using nothing but a single word as inspiration, completely inventing new characters and new plots along the way that they've never played before-- whether that be numerous independent scenes one after the other (that might be connected thematically but not with a single story), or indeed complete stage plays or musicals with all the acoutrement of an actual written performance, but with all of it made up at the time of performance. My apologies if you do in fact already know about this type of improvisation (as I do not know your relationship to the medium)... it was only your quoted statement that seem to suggest you thought even long-form improv was "pre-plotted" in many regards. But I may have misinterpreted or misunderstood your intention and knowledge behind your statement, so I'm sorry if I was passing on info you were already aware of. [/QUOTE]
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