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Message: <blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 9468966" data-attributes="member: 93670">Fair assessment of what I didn't think was all that spherical of an overweight cow.  A software tool certainly won't fix a fundamentally broken process, but not so much the other way around with what would otherwise be a smoothly functional process.  A bad software tool can trivially break a process that should be too simple to break.  I'll be more explicit with examples for the kinds of poorly phrased rules setting bad expectations in ways that break down under your post 157 division without the spherical cows that were only vaguely gestured at before.While there are many less clearcut examples, I'll pick the most clear & obvious of them...  Compare the TCoE139 Session zero text to  the 2024phb Pg33 sidebar on the same topic.  The <a href="https://languagetool.org/insights/post/the-former-and-the-latter/#:~:text=Former%20is%20used%20to%20refer%20to%20the%20first%20thing%20in,latter%20refers%20to%20small%20towns." target="_blank">former</a> is presented in a way that describes one side of the GM screen with absolutely no obligations or responsibilities whatsoever while the latter presents guidance towards collaboration to the individuals presented with zero obligations & responsibilities.  A similar but less starkly contrasted shift is present throughout the rest of chargen.  That shift is especially prominent in areas like background/backstory that was presented as both part of the PC that belongs on the character sheet as well as a thing where there is zero expectation of preemptive collaboration.  It's not hard for a player (especially newer ones who are excited to enjoy the same results as the professional actors making a for profit liveplay presentation).Sticking with the software analogies... Under those conditions it's easy for the player owns PC GM owns everything else division you noted in 157 to breakdown with a <a href="https://servicenow.iu.edu/kb?id=kb_article_view&sysparm_article=KB0022598#:~:text=Segfaults%20are%20caused%20by%20a,write%20an%20illegal%20memory%20location." target="_blank">segfault</a> type mess when the player has been mislead to believe that collaboration is one way because the GM needs to open the world for PCs to interact with or there can't be a game & the player incorrectly assumes that everything made unilaterally in isolation on their character sheet☆ is something exclusively owned by them as a player.☆ or things N steps removed from a vague reference like the specific creature & its unstated motives in that PC killed a monster/beast  backstory example someone made earlier in the thread.</blockquote>

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