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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Luce" data-source="post: 4476115" data-attributes="member: 29760">Mark:I meant it in a good way. I do not wish to kill the PCs just make their lives more exciting.Delta:What you say is true, my 2ed book do state that most creatures do not wish to experience it. it also specifically gives an example of ork being turned into white dragon. Still the tactic is not out of the question, as its new best friend you may be able to convince it to take the risk, especially if you promise to turn it back with dispel magic(wheather you keep your promise is another question) Now in 3ed does not mention anything about the creature loosing it mind, running a risk of dieing  or objecting(Drag 280)roguerouge:About Your comment concerning enemy retaliation tactics.Smart villains are not always sociable, or understanding of other species society. Creatures like a mind flayer and a devil will undoubtedly at least consider what you described, but Chaotic being like a Big Red or a demon probably would not, opting instead for more direct confrontation.Also, in my experience, PCs became less dependent on society as they grow in power. PS: By the way do you play Vampire? If not please consider it, the tactic you describe seems very much in the style of that game.Ulrick (and others who remember favorably the "old days")You might have already seen this, but it deserves to be mentioned again:<a href="http://www.lulu.com/content/3019374" target="_blank">Quick Primer for Old School Gaming by Matthew Finch (Book) in Games</a></blockquote>

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