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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ahnehnois" data-source="post: 6321343" data-attributes="member: 17106">Have you ever read any of the dozens (and probably hundreds) of polls and threads here on topics here about what type of ability score generation or treasure allocation people are using? No? Anything in poll form usually bell curves around something above the "default". Read them and get back to me.The way this plays out in in-game terms is very important. A character with the standard array is not a "hero" in the sense of being the protagonist of your favorite fantasy novel; that's why it's called "standard". The game, not surprisingly, does not play that way at that power level. That means anyone who wants to do plots of large-scale consequence in their world, or have characters that are on the level of mythic heroes needs to adjust things way upward. And most people indeed figured that out.All of which has implications as far as relative usefulness of different character types.All of the fundamental baselines of 3e were almost certainly ignored by more groups than not. To suggest the contrary would be to impose of a group of millions of people of diverse experiences around the world a ludicrous standard of homogeneity. Are you suggesting that people out there are essentially playing exactly by the book, rules and guidelines, and not meaningfully deviating from any of it?We discuss the published game here because it's a common frame of reference, but no one completely adheres to it (and even the original 3.0 core books presented all manner of paradigm-changing variants). And, I think it's fair to assume that by the time D&D had gotten into WotC's hands, people understood that. They understood that the OGL legitimized the widespread homebrewing community. They understood that variants needed to be built into the game. And the baseline was wrote not as an expectation to adhere to, but as an example to start from.Feel free to start a thread asking how many people ever ran four-character groups at the same level with standard array or 4d6 ability scores and wealth matching the WBL tables through challenges with an EL appropriate to their level. And no houserules, variants, third party material, etc. etc.</blockquote>

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