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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lanefan" data-source="post: 6323418" data-attributes="member: 29398">Funny, I just had this very discussion with one of my players at brunch today; he thinks a PC *should* be able to use Charisma-based abilities to convince other PCs to do stuff.  I disagree, but I also disagree that a good Diplomacy roll should trump lousy roleplaying on the part of Shelestra's player.Realistically, the DM should have an interest in the well-being of every NPC out there just like the players care about their PCs.  Most don't bother with this because it's an awful lot of effort trying to come up with motivations, dreams, goals, and life experiences for a bajillion NPCs; but using the example of King Plotdevice I as DM should have a pretty good handle on what makes him tick and am then going to make sure I roleplay to suit what's in his best interest.In truth every creature met in the game world is a DMPC of some sort.A character in the game world is no less a living, breathing (imaginary) entity just because it doesn't have a player attached.  To think otherwise cheapens the setting and devalues the richness of the game.I've successfully modelled it, yes, at cost of internal consistency and believability.If the party's going to mow through the monsters anyway why not just leave the monsters with their normal h.p. values for Con. and HD (or level)?Lan-"every creature tells a story"-efan</blockquote>