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Beast Master Ranger: Redeemed?
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<blockquote data-quote="UngeheuerLich" data-source="post: 7598010" data-attributes="member: 59057"><p>I don't think the ranger is a weak class. I also think that it has serious problems with the wording.</p><p>Both phb rangers can attack by not using the attack action which invalidates two weapon fighting which is sad.</p><p>To the optimized beast master:</p><p>If you take a wolf you don't need the find familiar. Your wolf can trip and set every melee fighter up for a lot of damage, not only you.</p><p>If you insist on an owl, you could start with:</p><p>16 Str</p><p>14 Dex</p><p>13 Con</p><p>10 Int</p><p>13 Wis</p><p>8 Cha</p><p>At level 1 you take ritual caster (wizard) and at level 4 you take resilient con.</p><p>I think ritual caster is so strong that you will free up a lot of slots by casting alarm, find familiar and later leomunds hut without spending a slot or needing to know it as a prescious ranger spell.</p><p>I also think not having resilient constitution if you are in melee and rely on hunter's mark is a great risk.</p><p></p><p>Edit: the wolf is by ni means optimal. But the beast master is playable. But still the level 11 feature is rather bad. At this level you'd rather attack twice yourself than let a beast attack if you don't have an optimized pet.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="UngeheuerLich, post: 7598010, member: 59057"] I don't think the ranger is a weak class. I also think that it has serious problems with the wording. Both phb rangers can attack by not using the attack action which invalidates two weapon fighting which is sad. To the optimized beast master: If you take a wolf you don't need the find familiar. Your wolf can trip and set every melee fighter up for a lot of damage, not only you. If you insist on an owl, you could start with: 16 Str 14 Dex 13 Con 10 Int 13 Wis 8 Cha At level 1 you take ritual caster (wizard) and at level 4 you take resilient con. I think ritual caster is so strong that you will free up a lot of slots by casting alarm, find familiar and later leomunds hut without spending a slot or needing to know it as a prescious ranger spell. I also think not having resilient constitution if you are in melee and rely on hunter's mark is a great risk. Edit: the wolf is by ni means optimal. But the beast master is playable. But still the level 11 feature is rather bad. At this level you'd rather attack twice yourself than let a beast attack if you don't have an optimized pet. [/QUOTE]
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