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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lyxen" data-source="post: 8542837" data-attributes="member: 7032025">Again, please contrast the above with "Players will tend to do what is advantageous to them". Do your players do this or not ?You mean, apart from never being surprised and noticing every single trap and hidden thing that can be noticed in the game ? I find this very uninteresting, for once, and second, as you mentioned in a previous post, I think it's revealing about what is happening in the game and the advantages that this confers. Otherwise, as what happens in our games, players are usually happy about having a high score because it makes sense for their characters, and don't seek to over-optimise something.No, in my view SOME players will do this because they are gaming the world rather than trying to have their character live in there. It's a different style, nothing wrong with this, but we all have our preferences. At our tables, players are encouraged to play in the world and not try to (ab)use the rules for technical effects "just because they think the rules say so". To each his own.</blockquote>