Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.

Reply to thread

Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lyxen" data-source="post: 8546142" data-attributes="member: 7032025">No, sorry, the rule in question does not support your interpretation, for three simple reasons that you have never been able to disprove:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">You have never been able to explain the part in red: These characters don't contribute their passive Wisdom (Perception) scores to the group's chance of noticing hidden threats.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">You continue to say that such characters don't have a passive wisdom (perception) score despite the fact that the sentence explicitly says they have one (just that it does not count for the group).</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">And you continue to say that, despite all the evidence above that you are ignoring the ACTUAL rule, they support your intent of passive perception being shut off despite having no support for said position and being disproved by the lead developer who tells you that passive perception is always.</li> </ul>Try again, this time with some actual rule or dev support, because so far, you have absolutely nothing. And repeating again and again that that rule supports your view just shows this time after time.And the reason for you being wrong in this from the start is that your "solution" is unfair to the players, and not conducive to fun. Basically, you are forcing them to choose between survivability and helping out during the travel phase. The REAL intent behind the rules is way better, it does not put the characters in mortal danger by removing their PP and making them automatically surprised, it just prevents them from helping spot threats in advance with the rest of the group. It's way more balanced, less fatal to characters, and way more conducive to fun. At least characters can try and do something useful without having a death sentence hanging over their head.If perception really bothers you so much, start by not handing out advantage to it when inappropriate. We don't have a problem with perception at our tables, and all the characters don't have it. So maybe the problem is elsewhere at your tables.</blockquote>

Verification