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<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 8546978" data-attributes="member: 23751">This is not true.&nbsp; He doesn't want group to mean individual.&nbsp; It's just that like me, he understands that groups are made up OF individuals.&nbsp; Groups(an adventuring party) can all make individual checks by RAW.&nbsp; If they entire group runs at a chasm and leaps over all at once, they do not make a group check to get across.&nbsp; Each one makes an individual check and some may not make it across while others do.&nbsp; In the context of the surrounding text, the sentence you are hanging your hat on does not mean group check.&nbsp; It's clear from the surrounding text and the surprise rules the travel rules bow to require these passive perception checks to be individual.Whereas I'm going by RAW.&nbsp; I've shown you multiple charts that show that the travel rules are based on racial movement rates.&nbsp; You're looking at examples that can apply to my argument and yours both, but you are choosing to stick your head in the sand and ignore clearly written rules that show you to be wrong. It's not something that I &quot;want.&quot;&nbsp; It's what it is. <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" alt="🤷‍♂️" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f937-2642.png" title="Man shrugging&nbsp; &nbsp; :man_shrugging:" data-shortname=":man_shrugging:" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 8546978, member: 23751"] This is not true. He doesn't want group to mean individual. It's just that like me, he understands that groups are made up OF individuals. Groups(an adventuring party) can all make individual checks by RAW. If they entire group runs at a chasm and leaps over all at once, they do not make a group check to get across. Each one makes an individual check and some may not make it across while others do. In the context of the surrounding text, the sentence you are hanging your hat on does not mean group check. It's clear from the surrounding text and the surprise rules the travel rules bow to require these passive perception checks to be individual. Whereas I'm going by RAW. I've shown you multiple charts that show that the travel rules are based on racial movement rates. You're looking at examples that can apply to my argument and yours both, but you are choosing to stick your head in the sand and ignore clearly written rules that show you to be wrong. It's not something that I "want." It's what it is. 🤷‍♂️ [/QUOTE]

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