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<blockquote data-quote="Lyxen" data-source="post: 8551840" data-attributes="member: 7032025"><p>Which is a shame, since, out of all the rulebook, you are basing your claim on just ONE sentence, and obviously reading it with such a bias that it causes you to completely misunderstand it. Reading about the intent, and reading what people who actually think about all the rules and how they interweave thanks to the overall design.</p><p></p><p>Once more, you have NOTHING to stand on, there is not one shred of evidence in the whole rules and the whole publications out there supporting your views, and I have shown readers that there are actually a lot of advice telling people NOT to do what you suggest, it's not conducive to fun.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't have a personal conflict with you, believe it or not. You are absolutely free to write whatever you want and play the way you want in your game. I am just warning people that your reading of the rule is an incorrect one, and that nothing in the rules tells the DM to deprive their players of their PP to make them automatically surprised. And I do this not only because it's demonstrably incorrect, but also because, just like Sly Flourish, I think that it is absolutely bad for fun, deadly for the chaarcters and causing players to be inactive.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You are not convincing anyone by clinging to ONE sentence in which you have to change words to make it seems like it supports your claim. Again, in "These characters don’t contribute their passive Wisdom (Perception) scores to the group’s chance of noticing hidden threats", how do you extract that characters don't have a passive perception and are automatically surprised is really beyond logic.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lyxen, post: 8551840, member: 7032025"] Which is a shame, since, out of all the rulebook, you are basing your claim on just ONE sentence, and obviously reading it with such a bias that it causes you to completely misunderstand it. Reading about the intent, and reading what people who actually think about all the rules and how they interweave thanks to the overall design. Once more, you have NOTHING to stand on, there is not one shred of evidence in the whole rules and the whole publications out there supporting your views, and I have shown readers that there are actually a lot of advice telling people NOT to do what you suggest, it's not conducive to fun. I don't have a personal conflict with you, believe it or not. You are absolutely free to write whatever you want and play the way you want in your game. I am just warning people that your reading of the rule is an incorrect one, and that nothing in the rules tells the DM to deprive their players of their PP to make them automatically surprised. And I do this not only because it's demonstrably incorrect, but also because, just like Sly Flourish, I think that it is absolutely bad for fun, deadly for the chaarcters and causing players to be inactive. You are not convincing anyone by clinging to ONE sentence in which you have to change words to make it seems like it supports your claim. Again, in "These characters don’t contribute their passive Wisdom (Perception) scores to the group’s chance of noticing hidden threats", how do you extract that characters don't have a passive perception and are automatically surprised is really beyond logic. [/QUOTE]
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