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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Herpes Cineplex" data-source="post: 1630914" data-attributes="member: 16936">Actually, the description for Invisibility already makes it clear that any item picked up by the invisible creature or any material that adheres to the invisible creature remains visible.  Period.If you weren't holding it or didn't have it on you when you cast the spell, everyone can see it until you put it someplace where it wouldn't be seen even if you were visible (inside a pouch, under your clothing, etc.).  If someone dusts you lightly with flour, you are an invisible person covered in visible flour, and need to take a few actions to brush most of it off if you want to get back to your former total-concealment glory.  And if they threw mud or paint on you, you might just be completely out of luck there.Anyway, the kind of problems Hong describes are the sort of thing that only really strikes when you've got Greater Invisibility (or worse, Improved Invis in 3.0) combined with flight or some really forgiving terrain that makes it difficult to narrow down where the bad guy might be.  Personally, I've never been too worried about the way that really effectively countering greater invisibility requires particular spells and a fair amount of planning.  I mean, I can see how it might create an occasional near-catastrophe, but it's not something that would make me bar it from the game.  There really are a lot of magical counters to use against it, and I don't particularly care if some kinds of opponents don't have access to any of them; those opponents will just get slaughtered, I expect.  Part of the fun.--and if it leads to an occasional party catastrophe, that's part of the fun, tooryan</blockquote>

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